Is this fair? ( Covid Q.)

[one.opinion]

9 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

what part of any source beside the Dr Faucci government controlled CDC did you not get?

Have you considered that I could have been writing a response AS you were throwing down your "no CDC" mandate? I've made my point and have work to do. I'm bowing out now since you are unwilling to have a calm, adult conversation.

The CDC reported vaccine safety on collected data, so here are the sources:

https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389

https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.15.21251623v3

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3790399

https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(21)00448-7

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.10.20097543v3

PMID:33596348

https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMc2102153

https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMc2101927

https://doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.16382

[one.opinion]

14 minutes ago, Starise said:

What you are saying is we can't trust the data from them. Can you prove their data isn't correct?

A logical argument would be based on conflicting data, and I assume it would have been presented by now.

[PeterR]

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The controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus has ever been isolated or purified continues. However, using the above definition, common sense, the laws of logic and the dictates of science, any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the virus’ existence can be found. The logical, common sense, and scientific consequences of this fact are:

• the structure and composition of something not shown to exist can’t be known, including the presence, structure, and function of any hypothetical spike or other proteins;
• the genetic sequence of something that has never been found can’t be known;
• “variants” of something that hasn’t been shown to exist can’t be known;
• it’s impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19."
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• https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/sovi/

[Guest kingdombrat]

UMMM, you do realize the CDC is a GOVERNMENT FACILITY.   That is to be OBEYED like Romans states that God has set-up and WE CHRISTIANS ARE TO OBEY?

[one.opinion]

2 minutes ago, PeterR said:

The controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus has ever been isolated or purified continues. However, using the above definition, common sense, the laws of logic and the dictates of science, any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the virus’ existence can be found. The logical, common sense, and scientific consequences of this fact are:

I'm sorry, but this is complete misinformation. Please don't be suckered by one conspiracist when there are literally thousands of labs working with this virus that one guy says doesn't exist.

[PeterR]

3 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

UMMM, you do realize the CDC is a GOVERNMENT FACILITY.   That is to be OBEYED like Romans states that God has set-up and WE CHRISTIANS ARE TO OBEY?

When they kill us all, we'll be victorious.

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 hour ago, PeterR said:

When they kill us all, we'll be victorious.

If we are like Christ, then we are also lambs being led to the slaughter.   But will we be like Christ and OBEY, is the [real] question.   

[PeterR]

41 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

If we are like Christ, then we are also lambs being led to the slaughter.   But will we be like Christ and OBEY, is the [real] question.   

We must remain faithful to God rather than to man when it comes to trust. Everyone has to judge whether the condition we need to fulfill in order to keep our freedom is to get rid of our faith.

Someone once said: It is interesting that to this day the name Paul is still given to boys, and Nero at best to dogs.

[teddyv]

4 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

That's a big if my friend, and what if it shown 10 years from now that it causes harmful side effects (as we have seen in the past like with Autism) is that price also acceptable?

If that autism comment is being mentioned with respect to the MMR vaccine, you do know that the study behind that was wrong?

[Guest kingdombrat]

45 minutes ago, PeterR said:

We must remain faithful to God rather than to man when it comes to trust. Everyone has to judge whether the condition we need to fulfill in order to keep our freedom is to get rid of our faith.

Someone once said: It is interesting that to this day the name Paul is still given to boys, and Nero at best to dogs.

That is so twisted it isn't even common sensible.

Trusting God is obeying the Government like God commanded to!