Polycarp

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48 minutes ago, Alive said:

OK--I get what you are laying down, but let's follow your logical argument as it stands in your dynamic.

How many were left alive at the flood event? 8 souls?

That means that all other humans and critters perished.

Does the tribulation that you envision to come in the future exceed that in some way?

I'm curious.

The slaughtering [Beheading] will be BILLIONS of people.

Tell me when that feat has ever happened before?

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1 minute ago, Justin Adams said:

Josh is quite correct.

Only because you think he is!

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Just now, Josheb said:

lol! I have not asserted a doctrine. 

You're still ignoring historical Fact!

The Jerusalem 70 A.D. is not equal to Genghis Khan's slaughter of 250k dead per month in 5 years totaling 15 million deaths.  The only feat bigger than that will be the [Beheading].   Jerusalem is a drop in the bucket and nothing more!

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1 minute ago, Josheb said:

Let's try the presuppositional approach again. 

 

You have agreed God is sovereignly attributed and satan has absolutely no power over God. Yes? We're in complete agreement on that point?

I don't buy it because in order to have your viewpoint I have to accept John was in Patmos before 70 A.D. when Roman Archive tells us he was there by Domitian in 90 A.D. and released by Nerva.

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2 minutes ago, Josheb said:

It was from the Jews' pov. 

And nothing you've posted proves otherwise. Your entire argument is anglo-centric, human-centric, and future-oriented. I'm not the one ignoring historical fact (or selectively ignoring ancient historians)

It was from JOSEPHUS the Traitors view, you know, the second Judas by which Jews still call him!

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Some examples of who you are choosing to believe!

 

 

“The luckiest traitor ever,” in the words of the historian Mary Beard, Flavius Josephus was a first-century Jewish general who threw in his lot with the Roman legions that destroyed his homeland.Mar 28, 2018

 

He had divorced his third wife, married an aristocratic heiress from Crete, and given Roman names to his children. He had written an official history of the revolt and was loathed by the Jews as a turncoat and traitor. 

 

Josephus was a clever, aristocratic traitor who sold out his own people in the name of patriotism. He lived in luxury nearly all his life, and enjoyed being famous.

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3 minutes ago, Josheb said:

I encourage you to read "Before Jerusalem Fell" by Ken Gentry. He documents all the relevant information to prove the eary date for Revelation and his book is in fact changing our understanding as you and I exchange posts. You're working with old (liberal) information. Roman archives do not report John on Patmos under Domitian. That is a complete falsehood and you should be as critical of those sources as you are of my posts, Josephus' history and everything else you read. 

 

And you're still not disproving anything I have posted.

I encourage you to look up Roman Archive!

[Justin Adams]

5 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

Mary Beard

Shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, Beard was one of several authors invited to contribute articles on the topic to the London Review of Books. She opined that many people, once "the shock had faded", thought "the United States had it coming", and that "[w]orld bullies, even if their heart is in the right place, will in the end pay the price".[23] In a November 2007 interview, she stated the hostility these comments provoked had still not subsided, though she believed it had become a standard viewpoint that terrorism was associated with American foreign policy.[5] By this point she was described by Paul Laity of The Guardian as "Britain's best-known classicist".

A feminist that dislikes the USA. That is MY COUNTRY she is dissing!!

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From Roman Archive:

 

1. With an imperial gesture, Domitian orders his men to throw John into a cauldron of boiling oil, shown on the right. John emerges unharmed.

 

2. reign of Domitian

Almost all New Testament scholars now take the view that Revelation was written during the reign of Domitian, sometime around 95-96 CE. He is the "beast from the sea" beyond doubt.

 

3. The text of Revelation states that John was on Patmos, a Greek island where, by most biblical historians, he is considered to have been exiled as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian.

 

4. 

94 AD

 

In 94 AD, the 14th year of the reign of Emperor Domitian, the elderly John the Apostle was exiled to the island of Patmos.Dec 12, 2018

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5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, Beard was one of several authors invited to contribute articles on the topic to the London Review of Books. She opined that many people, once "the shock had faded", thought "the United States had it coming", and that "[w]orld bullies, even if their heart is in the right place, will in the end pay the price".[23] In a November 2007 interview, she stated the hostility these comments provoked had still not subsided, though she believed it had become a standard viewpoint that terrorism was associated with American foreign policy.[5] By this point she was described by Paul Laity of The Guardian as "Britain's best-known classicist".

A feminist that dislikes the USA. That is MY COUNTRY she is dissing!!

The USA did have it coming.  We lead the world in Abortions total and yearly!

 

Read the Harbinger Books, you will enjoy!