Unveiling of Full Preterism

[Montana Marv]

Here we go; I hope this perks some interest.

Full Preterism is either 100 percent truth or 100 percent a false doctrine.  Rev was either written before 70 AD as they suggest or written between 90 and 96 AD as most others believe.

Here is the problem.  If it is the Truth as some say.  Those who believe in 80% of what a Full Preterists believes in, they are 20% away from the Truth; while in other cases, those who believe in 20% of what a Full Preterist believes in they are now 80% away from the Truth.   The 80% are 20% in denial from the Truth, while the 20% are 80% in denial from the Truth.

Another look:  If it is totally a false doctrine or belief, The 80% believers are now 80% away from the Truth, while the 20% are now 80% closer to the Truth.

One should either fully embrace Full Preterism as Truth of Fully embrace it as a False Doctrine.  No in between ground.

Jesus in Rev 3:15 - I know your deeds, that you are neither cold or hot.  I wish you were either one or the other. v16 - So because you are lukewarm, neither hot or cold - I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Either all prophecy was fulfilled in or about 70 AD as a Full Preterist believes, or there is much much more prophecy yet to be fulfilled.  Were most of the events of Rev fulfilled in or about 70 AD, or are they reserved for a later date.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Justin Adams]

I already posted this topic. And this definition of it lacks clarity. Check out my "HYPERPRETERISM" post/OP.

Also, there is very good evidence that Revelation was written prior to 70 AD.

Edited June 11, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Alive]

A point needs to be made here---considering an early date for Rev, does not necessarily make one a full pret.

That is simply not true.

 

 

 

[Justin Adams]

12 minutes ago, Alive said:

A point needs to be made here---considering an early date for Rev, does not necessarily make one a full pret.

That is simply not true.

 

 

 

Exactly correct. Some that hold to 'other ideas' want to object to this idea based on their own take which is often false or incomplete. I have a good description about HYPER PRETERISM and what they believe(d) from a former HYPP believer. See my post about this. We must be careful to be correct/precise when we post about other's ideas and beliefs.

If we post an article we must give the link and refer to their copyright if needed.

Edited June 11, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Montana Marv]

23 minutes ago, Alive said:

A point needs to be made here---considering an early date for Rev, does not necessarily make one a full pret.

That is simply not true.

 

 

 

No, but it will make them a Partial Preterist.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Justin Adams]

Just now, Montana Marv said:

No, but it will make them a Partial Preterist.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Every believer I know is at least a partial preterist. Just means that they see that some prophesies were already fulfilled. You must be clear with your statements brother.

[Montana Marv]

1 minute ago, Justin Adams said:

Every believer I know is at least a partial preterist. Just means that they see that some prophesies were already fulfilled. You must be clear with your statements brother.

80% of prophecy has already been fulfilled.  It is the 20% that has not been fulfilled that we are hashing over.  Were these final 20% fulfilled in or about 70AD, OR will they be fulfilled throughout the 70th Week.  This is the point.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Justin Adams]

5 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

80% of prophecy has already been fulfilled.  It is the 20% that has not been fulfilled that we are hashing over.  Were these final 20% fulfilled in or about 70AD, OR will they be fulfilled throughout the 70th Week.  This is the point.

In Christ

Montana Marv

The "70th week" has come and gone. Read my "FUTURISM" post/OP.

You might see how Darby et al took up the earlier RCC ideas. Then the 'birth' of Dispensationalism. Later came Dallas Theological Seminary to make sure all pastors and TV folk had this indoctrination.

Edited June 11, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Montana Marv]

Just now, Justin Adams said:

The "70th week" has come and gone.

Then Daniels People, and Daniels holy city, Jerusalem have accepted Jesus as their Messiah and have anointed Jesus as their King according to Dan 9:24. Yes or No

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

Then Daniels People, and Daniels holy city, Jerusalem have accepted Jesus as their Messiah and have anointed Jesus as their King according to Dan 9:24. Yes or No

In Christ

Montana Marv

Wong understanding. Much study is needed.

The Most Holy Place was the Temple after the exile.

And yes, "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased". Yeshua's anointing from the Most High.
Later, after Pentecost when the Risen Lord sent the Spirit, the New Temple was formed (His Body) and the gentiles AND Jews were now a part of that temple according to the apostle. The old covenant was destroyed by the Owner of the vineyard (70AD) (see the parable). And the New Covenant ("this is my body and blood" etc.) was enacted just before Yeshua's crucifixion. Everything was put under the Lord's feet after His ascension and He is preeminent over all creation. "All power has been given to me..". He is seated at the right had of God as our High Priest and King. We are 'the sons of God' that are seated with Him in heavenly places. We are Kings and Priests on the earth and His hands and feet in spreading the Gospel. We are the 'seed' of the new Israel which incorporates all believers. We are Abraham's seed says the apostle.