Beliefs on Origin of Life

[watchinginawe]

2 hours ago, Slug1 said:

Concerning your response and the underlined part in the quote, we also cannot forget that God declared creation perfect. Evolution is when something (within) is not perfect and requires improvement.

Not necessarily. Adaptation is observed evolution and that seems part of God's design. Adaptation is also an improvement over the existing form given a particular environment.

[Slug1]

2 hours ago, watchinginawe said:

Not necessarily. Adaptation is observed evolution and that seems part of God's design. Adaptation is also an improvement over the existing form given a particular environment.

I always viewed adaptation to man's increase in use of what is provided in the world. To me, when God provided "clothing" to sinful man, this is an adaptation. Hey, look... this rock can kill my brother, hey now man knows how to formed ore into metal, then into a weapon. Hey, this water can be used to create electricity, hey look... etc. But, man never evolve as in the changing of one creature into another. The only change of one creature into another is when one believes and the old creature is left behind and the new creature moves forward. Still not evolution :-)

 

[Jayne]

2 hours ago, Slug1 said:

I always viewed adaptation to man's increase in use of what is provided in the world. To me, when God provided "clothing" to sinful man, this is an adaptation. Hey, look... this rock can kill my brother, hey now man knows how to formed ore into metal, then into a weapon. Hey, this water can be used to create electricity, hey look... etc. But, man never evolve as in the changing of one creature into another. The only change of one creature into another is when one believes and the old creature is left behind and the new creature moves forward. Still not evolution :-)

 

[hey, Slug, it's me....jayne from the old place.  good to see you]

[Slug1]

2 hours ago, Jayne said:

[hey, Slug, it's me....jayne from the old place.  good to see you]

Hooah and Amen, God bless ya sister!!

[one.opinion]

10 hours ago, Slug1 said:

Concerning your response and the underlined part in the quote, we also cannot forget that God declared creation perfect.

There is a clear difference - in the ancient Hebrew as well as English - between "very good" and "perfect".

[watchinginawe]

15 hours ago, Slug1 said:

I always viewed adaptation to man's increase in use of what is provided in the world.

...The only change of one creature into another is when one believes and the old creature is left behind and the new creature moves forward. Still not evolution :-)

 

I was referring more towards observed natural adaptation of life. For example, the Galapagos finches and the variation of beaks with environment and food sources or even the differences we observe among contemporary humans.

I like your distinction regarding the "new creature".  

[Slug1]

10 hours ago, one.opinion said:

There is a clear difference - in the ancient Hebrew as well as English - between "very good" and "perfect".

Yes, I tried to address that with a reply to Justin.

[Slug1]

29 minutes ago, watchinginawe said:

I was referring more towards observed natural adaptation of life. For example, the Galapagos finches and the variation of beaks with environment and food sources or even the differences we observe among contemporary humans.

I like your distinction regarding the "new creature".  

Hooah, that is a great example of "adaptation" but not for evolution. At the end of the day, or at the end of the year, or at the end of 1000 years, the finch with the new beak, is still the same finch. It has not "become" a new creature which is what "evolution" entails. 

Edit: Humans who live near the equator compared to humans who live far from the equator, no evolving at all while the bodies have adapted to how the climate is. Adaption only, no evolving. 

Edited June 22, 2021 by Slug1

[Marathoner]

"Prophet speak" doesn't have to be a stumbling block, friends. The Lord declared the end from the beginning, words we witness recorded from the beginning until the conclusion of the Tanakh (Old Testament). How quickly some forget the purpose of the scriptures which were written for Man (Adam); these scriptures testify of the Son of God, who in the fulness of time was born to a woman under the law. The Tanakh spoke of the Son of Man and His coming. 

He came as one of us, Adam whom He created in His image, the second Adam sent from heaven. Thus the labor of the Lord was finished for all time and He rested from the work He had done, as Genesis 2:3 informs us. This is the root of why I view Genesis 1:1 - 2:3 as a vision of God's creation (work) from beginning to end. The Lord spoke it Himself:

So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit. (John 19:30 NKJV)

Adam --- Man --- who fell and became strangers to the Lord who created us, is redeemed by the One who created us. He humbled Himself and came as one of us, the defining moment in all of His creation. As I've written before details which the Lord did not divulge, such as the age of this earth and the like, are inconsequential compared to the testimony of Christ and His holy ones. 

The Lord declares the end from the beginning.  

 

[Tristen]

Late to the party - but I'm in the "supernatural" camp - as described in Genesis (i.e. before reading any secular ideas over what is actually written).

(Some might even refer to me as YEC)