Sirsilius Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 117 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) There are many artist's depictions of Christ having long hair. From what source did they get their inspiration to depict Christ with long hair? Were there "other" historical writings outside the Bible that had Jesus as having long hair? Or perhaps "oral" traditions handed down indicating the same? Thoughts Anybody? Edited August 17, 2005 by Sirsilius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBronx Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 183 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/04/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/31/1968 Share Posted August 17, 2005 There are many artist's depictions of Christ having long hair. From what source did they get their inspiration to depict Christ with long hair? Were there "other" historical writings outside the Bible that had Jesus as having long hair? Or perhaps "oral" traditions handed down indicating the same? Thoughts Anybody? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think because theologians understand that was the way men wore their hair in those days...much like most men typically wear their hair short in these days...dunno. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobo81 Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 48 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/11/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/02/1981 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Ive always heard that the Jesus we see is a famous painting by michaelangelo, of some Italian man. Jesus is breifly described in the OT, I believe Isaiah, and from what I read he was not the most handsome out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirsilius Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 117 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 bobo81,Aug 17 2005, 02:59 PM] Ive always heard that the Jesus we see is a famous painting by michaelangelo, of some Italian man. Wow! Interesting.... Jesus is breifly described in the OT, I believe Isaiah, and from what I read he was not the most handsome out there. That sounds funny. Thanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zayit Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Yes, there is no flesh attraction to Messiah, for Isaiah (53) tells us "he hath no form or comeliness:and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Yet there is one who is coming who will be desirable because of his flesh looks and many will be deceived into following him to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITE OWL Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 535 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/02/1957 Share Posted August 17, 2005 NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,407 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,161 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusisGod2 Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,065 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/03/1958 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Not only is Jesus usually depicted as having long hair, He is also depicted as Italian! Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) I think this just about sums it up.. it was on a paper in our track rack enjoy sorry it is so long... but i think it explains everythign and covers just abotu every topic DID JESUS WEAR LONG HAIR? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By E. L. Bynum Many men today are wearing their hair long. This style seems to have had its start in modern times by certain musical groups such as the Beatles and others. The hippie movement, which has spread like a plague, has adopted the Long hair style for men. The "Jesus freaks" and other religious hippie cults have taken the long hair road. Unfortunately many men and boys who are not hippies have started to wear their hair in this manner. Many try to justify long hair by stating that Jesus Christ wore long hair. The time has come to set the record straight. History Does Not Support The Idea That Jesus Wore Long Hair. Many pictures drawn by artists in recent times, picture Jesus with long hair. In this they are wrong. The following is taken from the Book, "The Modern Student's Life of Christ," by Philip Vollmer, published some years ago by Fleming H. Revell Company. "Archaeologists object to the conventional pictures of Christ because they are not true to History. A German painter, L. Fahrenkrog, says: 'Christ certainly never wore a beard and his hair was beyond a doubt closely cut. For this we have historical proof. The oldest representations, going back to the first Christian centuries, and found chiefly in the catacombs of Rome, all pictured him without a beard. All the Christ pictures down to the beginning of the fourth century at least, and even later, are of this kind'." Even from Leonardo da Vinci and Michaelangelo we have pictures of Christ in the Final Judgment according to this older type. The June, 1971 issue of "Tomorrow's World" carried an article entitled - DID JESUS WEAR LONG HAIR? The article was illustrated with authentic busts from the ancient world of the Roman Empire leaders proving that short hair was the accepted mode in Roman-occupied Judea. The busts of General Pompey, Julius Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Emperor Trajan, and King Herod Agrippa - all showed that short hair was the style. The article stated: "For example, on pages 126-127 of Avi-Yonah's work (A History of the Holy Land) are found busts of Pompey, Augustus, and one believed to be Herod - all with short hair. All statues and carvings of legionnaires show them with closely cropped hair. A Roman with long hair was an oddity as is - used to be the case for men in our society. In fact, all Roman Emperors before, during, and after the time of Christ, from Julius Caesar to Trajan, wore short hair. And the emperor was the individual who set the pattern in style and mode of dress for the whole empire." We do not think that it is scriptural to hang pictures of Jesus Christ in the Church or in the home. Many popular pictures of Jesus that were painted in relatively recent times, have perpetuated the satanic idea that Jesus wore long hair. There Is No Biblical Evidence That Jesus Wore Long Hair. "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" I Corinthians 11:14 Jesus was not a Nazarite! According to Numbers 6:1-27, a Nazarite did wear long hair. However, Jesus was a Nazarene and not a Nazarite. While the two words look similar in English, they are entirely different in looks and meaning in the original language of the Bible. A Nazarene was one that lived in Nazareth, according to Matthew 2:23. A Nazarite was one who took a Nazarite vow, according to Numbers 6. The Nazarite vow was usually temporary. (Samson and Samuel seem to be notable exceptions, for their vow was for life. See I Samuel 1:11 and Judges 13:5; 16:17). The Nazarite vow was a vow of separation. Three things were forbidden as long as he was under the vow. (1) "He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried." Num. 6:3. (2) He could not cut his hair. (3) He could not touch or come near a dead body. Num. 6:6-9. A Nazarite could not have used any product of the vine, and thus Jesus could not have instituted the Lord's supper if he had been a Nazarite. For in this, he used the fruit of the vine. If He had been a Nazarite, He could not have touched the funeral "bier" (open coffin) of the dead man in Luke 7:11-18. If He had been a Nazarite, it is doubtful that the Holy Spirit would have caused Paul to write, "if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." I Cor. 11:14. If He had been a Nazarite, Judas would not have needed to identify Him in Gethsemane, since Jesus would have been the only long haired man there. Everything in the New Testament seems to indicate that Jesus looked much like the other Jewish men of His age. If there had been any radical difference in His appearance, we believe that it would have been mentioned in the Bible. "Doth not even nature itself teach you," that a man should have short hair and a woman long hair? I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BALD HEADED WOMAN, but I have seen many bald headed men. Very, very few women become bald, and those that do, are careful to conceal it with a wig. This surely must be "nature" teaching us. The Bible clearly indicates that the hair style of a man should be short, and that the woman's hair should be long. There should be a clear distinction between the hair of a man and a woman. Many scriptures teach that a woman's hair should be or was long. (Luke 7:38,44; John 11:2; I Peter 3:3; I Timothy 2:9 and many others). On the other hand the scriptures indicate just the opposite for the man, for you can find no such list of scriptures as above, in relationship to the man. Other than the very few Nazarites mentioned in the Old Testament, we can think of only one long haired man in the Bible and that was Absalom. He was the wicked rebellious son of David. "IF A MAN HAVE LONG HAIR IT IS A SHAME UNTO HIM." The above quoted words were written by Paul and were Divinely inspired of God. Therefore, we are going to accept what God says, rather than the fashion trend of the day. For the Christian, the Bible is the final word, not some picture or popular tradition. For evidence, we quote what scholars have said about I Cor. 11:14. Lange says, "Accordingly, in contrast with the practices of a cruder heathenism of the earlier time, when long hair prevailed, there has grown up among the most civilized nations, that good taste which declares itself in favor of short hair for men and long hair for women. Among men, the wearing of long hair is now reprobated as a mark of effeminacy and dishonoring to them, in as much as it prevents the free exposure of the countenance." Matthew Henry says, "The woman's hair is a natural covering; to wear it long is a glory to her; but for a man to have long hair, or cherish it, is a token of softness and effeminacy." " . . . If a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." The Greek Word "ATIMA" is translated "shame" in the above text. Elsewhere in the New Testament it is translated "dishonor" , "reproach" and "vile". Thayer's comments on this word are interesting and informative. He says: "Atima, dishonor, ignominy, disgrace, I Cor. 11:14; I Cor. 15:43, (in a state of disgrace, used of the unseemliness and offensiveness of a dead body): . . . base lusts, vile passions, Rom. 1:26." Could anything be plainer? The "shame" (atima) of long hair is elsewhere used in connection with a dead and putrefying, decaying body. In Romans 1:26, "atima" is translated "vile". Let us read this verse carefully. "For this cause God gave them up unto VILE affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND, . . . " Romans 1:26-28. God is thus associating the "SHAME" of long hair with the "VILE" affections of the sodomites and homosexuals. Our generation has made long hair acceptable and is seeking to legalize and popularize homosexuality. Now, we have homosexual churches and other churches that gladly welcome them into their membership. Long hair and homosexuality do not always go together, but they are very compatible. They both represent a revolt against God given nature, and against His precious Word. WHAT DOES LONG HAIR MEAN TODAY? Let the radical subversive Jerry Rubin answer from his book, "DO IT". "Young kids identify short hair with authority, discipline, unhappiness, boredom, rigidity hatred of life - and long hair with letting go . . . Wherever we go, our hair tells people where we stand on Vietnam, Wallace, Campus disruption, dope. We're living TV commercials for the revolution . . . Long hair is the beginning of our liberation from sexual oppression that underlies the whole military society." Preachers, Churches and Parents Must Stand Against Long Hair. Parents who allow a son to grow and wear long hair are contributing to a rebellion against God and against our country. This is a sure step in losing control of a child. Preachers and Churches who compromise on this subject, hoping to reach more young people are actually fighting against God. Let us stand, whatever the cost! We believe that Christian Young men, when taught the truth, will want to wear their hair short. Informed Christian's will not want to be identified with the "SHAME" or revolutionary revolt that long hair symbolizes. Edited August 17, 2005 by kittylover0991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted August 17, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Amen avenaue Jesus is always depicted as an Italian? Isn't he a Nazarene? sheesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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