Pat Robertson calls fot the head of Chavez

[amor]

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[dgolvach]

He doesn't hate Chavez, he just thinks he should be murdered is that Pat's approach then? Not really in line with the teaching of the Gospel, is it?

Again...Pat was wrong. No it wasn't Christ-like to say such a thing. Now Amor, perhaps you can explain to me how the type of Communist regime that Chavez is setting up that will effect the lives of millions for years to come is in line with the teaching of the Gospel. I can give you some pretty non-Christ like quotes that have come out of the mouth of Communist leaders such as Chavez. Robertson may be wrong but he is far less dangerous as the Chavezs and Castros of the world. Will you at least condemn Communism and the anti- God mind set it inspires?

Dan

[amor]

He doesn't hate Chavez, he just thinks he should be murdered is that Pat's approach then? Not really in line with the teaching of the Gospel, is it?

Again...Pat was wrong. No it wasn't Christ-like to say such a thing. Now Amor, perhaps you can explain to me how the type of Communist regime that Chavez is setting up that will effect the lives of millions for years to come is in line with the teaching of the Gospel. I can give you some pretty non-Christ like quotes that have come out of the mouth of Communist leaders such as Chavez. Robertson may be wrong but he is far less dangerous as the Chavezs and Castros of the world. Will you at least condemn Communism and the anti- God mind set it inspires?

Dan

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Well any government which seeks to feed the poor, and protect the weak in society, has to be better then one that puts the interest of the rich and powerful first. How much Chavez will acheive this I don't know. I have a fear that political power often corrupts those who hold it. Anyway since your so full of questions,here's one for you. How do you justify the assasination or deposing of a democratically elected leader. As to Communism well I'm not a Marxist but I do believe that the earth's resources should be shared for the benefit of all, and not monopolised by rich and powerful elites. That doesn't, at least in my opinion conflict with the teachings of Christ.

[Guest yod]

Except according to Leviticus, nobody has any right to claim to land permanently Anyway, do you think the rich landowners got in in a just honest way?

In ancient Israel?

Yes...mostly.

Do you think the poor are pure by virtue of being financially worthless?

If so then I am the purest person you know.

Well any government which seeks to feed the poor, and protect the weak in society, has to be better then one that puts the interest of the rich and powerful first.

Any society that values people on their financial portfolio alone is immoral.

How do you justify the assasination or deposing of a democratically elected leader.

I will answer this question not as a christian but as someone with a brain.

If you assassinate Hitler in 1933 you would have saved the lives of 50 MILLION people.

what is so hard for you to understand about that?

[Eadora]

Amen Dr. Luke, so pat robertson spoke before he thought about it..........at least he stands on the right side, and with this world growing more evil by the hour.......well can you blame him.................He does preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified..............................He is our family in Jesus Christ.

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[Guest shiloh357]

Amen Dr. Luke, so pat robertson spoke before he thought about it..........at least he stands on the right side, and with this world growing more evil by the hour.......well can you blame him.................He does preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified..............................He is our family in Jesus Christ.

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Sorry

[dgolvach]

Well any government which seeks to feed the poor, and protect the weak in society, has to be better then one that puts the interest of the rich and powerful first. How much Chavez will acheive this I don't know. I have a fear that political power often corrupts those who hold it. Anyway since your so full of questions,here's one for you. How do you justify the assasination or deposing of a democratically elected leader. As to Communism well I'm not a Marxist but I do believe that the earth's resources should be shared for the benefit of all, and not monopolised by rich and powerful elites. That doesn't, at least in my opinion conflict with the teachings of Christ.

To answer your question first. I don't justify it and I said I don't agree with Pat.

I started this thread because I think what he said is over the top. As far as the Government that Chavez is trying to set up. Look at the models for communism. China and Cuba. They are both slave states. They came into power by offering utopia. Feeding the poor and protecting the weak. What they actually managed to do was create poverty and weaken the people to the point of dependency on big government. The road to hell is always paved with good intentions. Communism does not and never will work. If other nations want to find out the hard way and the elect someone to lead them down that path, what can I say? Look at History. How many failed states do you need to understand that Communism always ends up where it does. Big brother type governments may be a quick fix for a nation's problems but it is not a long term solution. The problem is, once you give all of the power to big brother, he dosen't ever want to leave. Its like using morphine to ease pain but then getting hooked on the morphine. The only way these type of states can compeat in the world market is through massive slave labor. This is a type of bondage that never accomodates human nature. The people are never happy but because they have elected a watchful big brother, they are powerless to do anything about it short of a bloody revolution. Remember what happened in China back in 89. Tianamen Square. The state controlls everything including the elections.

I don't agree with Pats approach but I do believe that the world would be better off without these Chavez type leaders. Don't you?

Dan

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

How many times shall we forgive our brother?

Peace,

Dave

[Guest shiloh357]

Grace to you,

How many times shall we forgive our brother?

Peace,

Dave

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Yeah... funny how some people on this thread are all about forgiveness when it comes to Muslim sins, but let a Christian step out of line, and all of a sudden, they find their outrage.

[ted]

Yeah... funny how some people on this thread are all about forgiveness when it comes to Muslim sins, but let a Christian step out of line, and all of a sudden, they find their outrage.

Bingo!

t.