What about those still in line when the last plane is full?

[not an echo]

Hello all,

As of this day, I have yet to hear anyone in the media ask---or anyone in the present administration offer---concerning those in Afghanistan who will STILL BE IN LINE WAITING AT THE GATES when the last plane is full and takes off.  Come Tuesday, August 31, 2021, this is going to be a development.  Have none of them had this foresight?  There is no way this scenario can be construed in such a way that it will fit in the category of humanitarian.  The first words of assurance to those in Afghanistan who wanted to get out ended up not squaring with reality.  All were assured at first that all would be able to leave that wanted to.  Then it became all that worked their way to the gates would be able to.  Which actually became, all those who survived at the gates would be able to---maybe.  And now, it will be all those who get to the gates and are fortunate enough to get on board before the last plane departs will be able to.  I wonder.  I wonder if there will be anyone left to roll the footage.  I wonder about that last soldier, the one who will be assigned to bring up the rear.  I wonder if he will have any thoughts about looking behind him as he walks away from the gates to board that last plane.  My heart goes out to him.  He will merely be following orders from higher up.  Yes, my heart goes out to him.  Somebody else should be bringing up the rear.  And, when the last plane is taking off, I wonder what it will be then, back at the gates.  Finally, I wonder how many of those higher up will not be able to sleep that night.

Just posted with tears.  Will be followed up with prayers.

[R. Hartono]

On 8/29/2021 at 8:42 AM, not an echo said:

Hello all,

As of this day, I have yet to hear anyone in the media ask---or anyone in the present administration offer---concerning those in Afghanistan who will STILL BE IN LINE WAITING AT THE GATES when the last plane is full and takes off.  Come Tuesday, August 31, 2021, this is going to be a development.  Have none of them had this foresight?  There is no way this scenario can be construed in such a way that it will fit in the category of humanitarian.  The first words of assurance to those in Afghanistan who wanted to get out ended up not squaring with reality.  All were assured at first that all would be able to leave that wanted to.  Then it became all that worked their way to the gates would be able to.  Which actually became, all those who survived at the gates would be able to---maybe.  And now, it will be all those who get to the gates and are fortunate enough to get on board before the last plane departs will be able to.  I wonder.  I wonder if there will be anyone left to roll the footage.  I wonder about that last soldier, the one who will be assigned to bring up the rear.  I wonder if he will have any thoughts about looking behind him as he walks away from the gates to board that last plane.  My heart goes out to him.  He will merely be following orders from higher up.  Yes, my heart goes out to him.  Somebody else should be bringing up the rear.  And, when the last plane is taking off, I wonder what it will be then, back at the gates.  Finally, I wonder how many of those higher up will not be able to sleep that night.

Just posted with tears.  Will be followed up with prayers.

In 1983 president Reagan invited Mujahidin to US n CIA armed them with weapons, they then develop into Taliban which you know now.

[Starise]

On 8/28/2021 at 9:42 PM, not an echo said:

Hello all,

As of this day, I have yet to hear anyone in the media ask---or anyone in the present administration offer---concerning those in Afghanistan who will STILL BE IN LINE WAITING AT THE GATES when the last plane is full and takes off.  Come Tuesday, August 31, 2021, this is going to be a development.  Have none of them had this foresight?  There is no way this scenario can be construed in such a way that it will fit in the category of humanitarian.  The first words of assurance to those in Afghanistan who wanted to get out ended up not squaring with reality.  All were assured at first that all would be able to leave that wanted to.  Then it became all that worked their way to the gates would be able to.  Which actually became, all those who survived at the gates would be able to---maybe.  And now, it will be all those who get to the gates and are fortunate enough to get on board before the last plane departs will be able to.  I wonder.  I wonder if there will be anyone left to roll the footage.  I wonder about that last soldier, the one who will be assigned to bring up the rear.  I wonder if he will have any thoughts about looking behind him as he walks away from the gates to board that last plane.  My heart goes out to him.  He will merely be following orders from higher up.  Yes, my heart goes out to him.  Somebody else should be bringing up the rear.  And, when the last plane is taking off, I wonder what it will be then, back at the gates.  Finally, I wonder how many of those higher up will not be able to sleep that night.

Just posted with tears.  Will be followed up with prayers.

I was just recently listening to a member of the House of representatives speak at a press conference yesterday and he is abhorred by the whole thing. I agree this is probably the largest bungle by the US in recent memory. So many things are wrong about the entire process. Leadership is the worst ever. Non existent really. The man is proving himself, excuse me, HAS PROVEN himself to be one of the worst leaders the US had ever had. Things he did or didn't do that made everything worse:

- He didn't listen to those in charge of the military who advised him against a fast pullout.

-He blamed The Afghan army when they were relying on US air support for their missions. Passed the blame away from his own failed decisions.

-He told the American people the opposite of the intel he had just received. The military industrial complex has been covering up the truth for 20 years.

-He has shown preferential treatment to Afghan refugees over US citizens during evacuations while not fully considering the security implications of bringing people ,some of whom, want to destroy the US. They won't need to come here. He's potentially importing them.

- He did a great disservice to both fallen veterans and our allies in other countries, the UK, Austrailia, Canada and others by not allowing them time to remove their countrymen before the evacuation.

-He left them all of our bases intact complete with artillery, drones, helicopters etc.

If I didn't know better I would swear the man in leadership is our enemy working against us. He has so greatly tarnished our world standing we may never recover it.

HOPEFULLY there is a plan to get more people out later. It may be a secret plan which if true, we won't know about it.

The main area of importance for the house speaker over the weekend was passing a 5 trillion 'stimulus' package. No concern for left Americans and others. Goes to show where the priorities are.

[R. Hartono]

On 8/30/2021 at 10:18 PM, Starise said:

I was just recently listening to a member of the House of representatives speak at a press conference yesterday and he is abhorred by the whole thing. I agree this is probably the largest bungle by the US in recent memory. So many things are wrong about the entire process. Leadership is the worst ever. Non existent really. The man is proving himself, excuse me, HAS PROVEN himself to be one of the worst leaders the US had ever had. Things he did or didn't do that made everything worse:

- He didn't listen to those in charge of the military who advised him against a fast pullout.

-He blamed The Afghan army when they were relying on US air support for their missions. Passed the blame away from his own failed decisions.

-He told the American people the opposite of the intel he had just received. The military industrial complex has been covering up the truth for 20 years.

-He has shown preferential treatment to Afghan refugees over US citizens during evacuations while not fully considering the security implications of bringing people ,some of whom, want to destroy the US. They won't need to come here. He's potentially importing them.

- He did a great disservice to both fallen veterans and our allies in other countries, the UK, Austrailia, Canada and others by not allowing them time to remove their countrymen before the evacuation.

-He left them all of our bases intact complete with artillery, drones, helicopters etc.

If I didn't know better I would swear the man in leadership is our enemy working against us. He has so greatly tarnished our world standing we may never recover it.

HOPEFULLY there is a plan to get more people out later. It may be a secret plan which if true, we won't know about it.

The main area of importance for the house speaker over the weekend was passing a 5 trillion 'stimulus' package. No concern for left Americans and others. Goes to show where the priorities are.

It was also connected to previous potus : 

On 8/30/2021 at 2:52 PM, R. Hartono said:

In 1983 president Reagan invited Mujahidin to US n CIA armed them with weapons, they then develop into Taliban which you know now.