Nearness of the Rapture

[Dennis1209]

It is enriching for me to discuss and compare hermeneutics with believers who know their Bible and the prophetic timeline. I am not the type to argue my theology, trying to convince anyone my view is the correct one, I know better. The only things I am dogmatic of; are the only way to Salvation, the Trinity, the inspired infallibility and inerrancy of scripture, and a couple of other non-negotiables. I’m like everyone else, a Bible student always learning and maturing.

We cannot know the day nor the hour of Christ’s return for His bride, but we can know the season [and we are in it], and are commanded several times to “watch.” I believe most of the remaining unfulfilled prophetic scripture, deals with the near Tribulation, leading up to the second coming of Jesus. We are given the reason for the Tribulation:

Daniel 9:24 (KJV) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

As we all know, the history behind people who set dates of the Rapture; results in disappointments, apostasy, and making Christians look like fools. We are not to set a date(s) for the Rapture of the church. We know that when the last person is to be saved; the Father will tell his Son, go fetch your bride.

Never before has there been a convergence of everything prophetic. Everything now occurring is coming on like birth pains, and screaming a New World Order and global government. The prophetic events shaping up such as, the U.N. Agenda 2030, and all that it entails paving the way for the Antichrist and Tribulation.

The formation, treaties, alignment, buildup, and players for the Ezekiel 38: -39: Gog-Magog invasion of Israel. The “hook in the jaw”; their prosperity, wealth, Dead Sea natural resources, Goliath natural gas and oil fields, etc. Global economics and the need for expansion, Muslim hatred of Israel, the U.S. and global abandonment of Israel.

With the appearance of a lamb and speaking like a dragon: Are you aware of all the heresies and blaspheming this socialist political Pope Francis is spouting? The leader of the globe’s largest religion with 1.4 billion adherents. With the titles of “Vicar of Christ” and “holy father”; that should tell us a little something.

Pope Francis's ecumenical movement is a success, drawing back ‘protester’ denominations, back under the umbrella of the universal one true church. Drawing and meeting with most of the globe’s major religions, including the Muslims. Praying with them and their pagan religions and announcing, “We all pray to the very same god, only called by a different name in different times, and cultures.” And so much more. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. If he is not the False Prophet, I suspect he is certainly the precursor.

Back on topic about my thoughts on the Rapture:

Genesis 6:3 (KJV) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Admittedly, these 120 years could be the new average lifespan of humanity, or the years remaining before the flood, or both? However; the latest biblical average life span of 70-80 years for humanity is given in:

Psalm 90:10 (KJV) The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.  

Matthew 24:32 (KJV) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Generally speaking, I believe the ‘olive tree’ is symbolic of spiritual Israel. In Matthew 24:32, I believe the fig tree is representative of National Israel, as a nation once again. We have and we are seeing all these things. Our generation has witnessed two major prophetic super signs: The rebirth of the nation of Israel in one day; May 14, 1948, by the declaration of the United Nations.

Isaiah 66:8 (KJV) Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

The second major prophetic event occurred in 1967, the Israeli Six-Day war.

Ezekiel 34:13 (KJV) And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

From May 14, 1948, until the 1967 Six-Day war; Israel did not control or have possession of any of their mountains, or even control and possession of Jerusalem. From then on, Jews started flocking back to their homeland; to include Operation Solomon, in May of 1991. Airlifting Ethiopian Jews back to Israel.

So, with all of the preceding, what is the point I’m striving to make, and for consideration? Arithmetic. Naturally, my context and thoughts may well be reading into something that is not there, but it seems plausible and logical.

The generation that sees these things, what things [Matt. 24:32]. Israel being reborn again in one day, 1948, we are that generation. The next logical question I would ask is, how long is a biblical generation for our dispensation? The latest lifespan for our generation [and it fits] is 70 years, or by strength, 80 years. I would consider this a season, a window if you will, not a date setting. With what is occurring nationally and globally, there’s no doubt in my mind the Tribulation is at the door. If it is that close, how much closer is the Rapture?

The math: 1948 + 70 = 2018; 1948 + 80 = 2028; (2018 – 2028) a potential season? Would you have any thoughts on this possibility?

I’m getting long winded and I need to be brief and close. I think the following is very interesting in our day and age.

Luke 21:26 (KJV) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

If you are not a Christian, there are many things to fear right now coming upon the earth, like birth pains, like plague [Covid, its mutations and variants] as one example.

I take Luke 21:26 above, like something falling on the earth from above, because of the qualifying statement of heaven shaken. With our powerful earth and space telescopes and mathematics, once discovered, we can track and predict the trajectory of asteroids and meteors. Not accurately though, until the time gets closer.

Just like the recent official announcement by our government, that UFOs are a real phenomenon, hidden and covered up for decades. For fear of global panic and civil disorder, a government would not divulge the truth of an impending major asteroid impact on the earth, until it could no longer be kept a secret.

It is interesting to note: This is not common knowledge but, doing some research, the powerful, wealthy, elite, and politically connected; are building and buying doomsday bunkers globally by the groves. And what are all these expensive doomsday global seed storage banks about?

To be brief; if you are interested in doing your research. I have a suspicion an asteroid NASA named “Apophis” could be the biblical asteroid “Wormwood?” Naturally so far, they are claiming it will be a close earth pass [inside of our outer satellites]. Everything from its Greek name meaning, to dates, to Israel’s feast days; is all very interesting, but speculative.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to turn this into a doctorial thesis.

[missmuffet]

2 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

It is enriching for me to discuss and compare hermeneutics with believers who know their Bible and the prophetic timeline. I am not the type to argue my theology, trying to convince anyone my view is the correct one, I know better. The only things I am dogmatic of; are the only way to Salvation, the Trinity, the inspired infallibility and inerrancy of scripture, and a couple of other non-negotiables. I’m like everyone else, a Bible student always learning and maturing.

We cannot know the day nor the hour of Christ’s return for His bride, but we can know the season [and we are in it], and are commanded several times to “watch.” I believe most of the remaining unfulfilled prophetic scripture, deals with the near Tribulation, leading up to the second coming of Jesus. We are given the reason for the Tribulation:

Daniel 9:24 (KJV) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

As we all know, the history behind people who set dates of the Rapture; results in disappointments, apostasy, and making Christians look like fools. We are not to set a date(s) for the Rapture of the church. We know that when the last person is to be saved; the Father will tell his Son, go fetch your bride.

Never before has there been a convergence of everything prophetic. Everything now occurring is coming on like birth pains, and screaming a New World Order and global government. The prophetic events shaping up such as, the U.N. Agenda 2030, and all that it entails paving the way for the Antichrist and Tribulation.

The formation, treaties, alignment, buildup, and players for the Ezekiel 38: -39: Gog-Magog invasion of Israel. The “hook in the jaw”; their prosperity, wealth, Dead Sea natural resources, Goliath natural gas and oil fields, etc. Global economics and the need for expansion, Muslim hatred of Israel, the U.S. and global abandonment of Israel.

With the appearance of a lamb and speaking like a dragon: Are you aware of all the heresies and blaspheming this socialist political Pope Francis is spouting? The leader of the globe’s largest religion with 1.4 billion adherents. With the titles of “Vicar of Christ” and “holy father”; that should tell us a little something.

Pope Francis's ecumenical movement is a success, drawing back ‘protester’ denominations, back under the umbrella of the universal one true church. Drawing and meeting with most of the globe’s major religions, including the Muslims. Praying with them and their pagan religions and announcing, “We all pray to the very same god, only called by a different name in different times, and cultures.” And so much more. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. If he is not the False Prophet, I suspect he is certainly the precursor.

Back on topic about my thoughts on the Rapture:

Genesis 6:3 (KJV) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Admittedly, these 120 years could be the new average lifespan of humanity, or the years remaining before the flood, or both? However; the latest biblical average life span of 70-80 years for humanity is given in:

Psalm 90:10 (KJV) The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.  

Matthew 24:32 (KJV) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Generally speaking, I believe the ‘olive tree’ is symbolic of spiritual Israel. In Matthew 24:32, I believe the fig tree is representative of National Israel, as a nation once again. We have and we are seeing all these things. Our generation has witnessed two major prophetic super signs: The rebirth of the nation of Israel in one day; May 14, 1948, by the declaration of the United Nations.

Isaiah 66:8 (KJV) Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

The second major prophetic event occurred in 1967, the Israeli Six-Day war.

Ezekiel 34:13 (KJV) And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

From May 14, 1948, until the 1967 Six-Day war; Israel did not control or have possession of any of their mountains, or even control and possession of Jerusalem. From then on, Jews started flocking back to their homeland; to include Operation Solomon, in May of 1991. Airlifting Ethiopian Jews back to Israel.

So, with all of the preceding, what is the point I’m striving to make, and for consideration? Arithmetic. Naturally, my context and thoughts may well be reading into something that is not there, but it seems plausible and logical.

The generation that sees these things, what things [Matt. 24:32]. Israel being reborn again in one day, 1948, we are that generation. The next logical question I would ask is, how long is a biblical generation for our dispensation? The latest lifespan for our generation [and it fits] is 70 years, or by strength, 80 years. I would consider this a season, a window if you will, not a date setting. With what is occurring nationally and globally, there’s no doubt in my mind the Tribulation is at the door. If it is that close, how much closer is the Rapture?

The math: 1948 + 70 = 2018; 1948 + 80 = 2028; (2018 – 2028) a potential season? Would you have any thoughts on this possibility?

I’m getting long winded and I need to be brief and close. I think the following is very interesting in our day and age.

Luke 21:26 (KJV) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

If you are not a Christian, there are many things to fear right now coming upon the earth, like birth pains, like plague [Covid, its mutations and variants] as one example.

I take Luke 21:26 above, like something falling on the earth from above, because of the qualifying statement of heaven shaken. With our powerful earth and space telescopes and mathematics, once discovered, we can track and predict the trajectory of asteroids and meteors. Not accurately though, until the time gets closer.

Just like the recent official announcement by our government, that UFOs are a real phenomenon, hidden and covered up for decades. For fear of global panic and civil disorder, a government would not divulge the truth of an impending major asteroid impact on the earth, until it could no longer be kept a secret.

It is interesting to note: This is not common knowledge but, doing some research, the powerful, wealthy, elite, and politically connected; are building and buying doomsday bunkers globally by the groves. And what are all these expensive doomsday global seed storage banks about?

To be brief; if you are interested in doing your research. I have a suspicion an asteroid NASA named “Apophis” could be the biblical asteroid “Wormwood?” Naturally so far, they are claiming it will be a close earth pass [inside of our outer satellites]. Everything from its Greek name meaning, to dates, to Israel’s feast days; is all very interesting, but speculative.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to turn this into a doctorial thesis.

Yes, we don't know when the rapture of the Church will happen but the Bible tells us in God's perfect timing this earth will experience the rapture. God will bring judgment and wrath upon this evil world. We live in a very turbulent world right now and it could be close. That gives those who are born again believers hope. 

[R. Hartono]

Wise virgins shall be taken  but there will be the Foolish virgins left behind and scream "Lord Loord, take us... ,. "I know you not".

Then the uncomparable horrors will be unleashed to the people dwelling on earth 

 

 

 

Edited September 24, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Faith-Not-Fear]

Yes, I agree with what you say. We are so close. Pope Francis is, at the very least, the precursor to the false prophet. I've never been Catholic or a believer in the 900 year old prophecy of the popes, but I do find it interesting that according to it, we are on the very last pope of all time in the prophecy, called the apostate pope. 

I also believe that the vaccine and covid passports are a trial run for the future mark of the beast, which many believe will be an implant based on the KJV word "in", referring to location. Revelation 13:16.

60 minutes had a story about a subdermal implant that monitors health. I listened to a minister cite experts who said that in order for a battery of an implant to be recharged, it must be placed in a temperature variable area such as hand or forehead. One disagreed that it should be lithium because it would degrade or break down and cause a "grevious sore". Which is why the minister said that Revelation 16:2 says "sore", not "sores".

[Marilyn C]

On 9/24/2021 at 12:27 AM, Dennis1209 said:

 

The math: 1948 + 70 = 2018; 1948 + 80 = 2028; (2018 – 2028) a potential season? Would you have any thoughts on this possibility?

 

Hi Dennis,

Some very good points there bro. I agree that we are very close to the Lord returning. Take off 7 years for Daniel`s 70th year and we get 2022 in the Jewish calendar.

I`m looking for early February next year. I am presenting my latest blog in Marilyn` Messages, on `The Lord`s Feasts` which I believe and present, that give us Jewish dates from God`s word for important events to come. Of course those dates then have to be changed to our Solar calendar and as we are not given the year we still have to look to the Holy spirit to quicken our spirits as to the Lord coming.

So...I`m there with you bro, and so are our friends over here.

We believe that the next few months are going to be more of a roller coaster ride - more dying of covid and the `jab`, food shortages, financial troubles, civil unrest, environmental catastrophes etc etc. 

Time to really seek the Lord and great opportunities to help others in so many ways. Let us go forth bravely, by the Holy Spirit to a dying world...physically and spiritually. 

`exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another and so much the more a you see the day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

[Dennis1209]

10 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Dennis,

Some very good points there bro. I agree that we are very close to the Lord returning. Take off 7 years for Daniel`s 70th year and we get 2022 in the Jewish calendar.

I`m looking for early February next year. I am presenting my latest blog in Marilyn` Messages, on `The Lord`s Feasts` which I believe and present, that give us Jewish dates from God`s word for important events to come. Of course those dates then have to be changed to our Solar calendar and as we are not given the year we still have to look to the Holy spirit to quicken our spirits as to the Lord coming.

So...I`m there with you bro, and so are our friends over here.

We believe that the next few months are going to be more of a roller coaster ride - more dying of covid and the `jab`, food shortages, financial troubles, civil unrest, environmental catastrophes etc etc. 

Time to really seek the Lord and great opportunities to help others in so many ways. Let us go forth bravely, by the Holy Spirit to a dying world...physically and spiritually. 

`exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another and so much the more a you see the day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

I too suspect the Rapture may occur on an Israel feast celebration? There seems to be scriptural support. 

Luke 21:26 (KJV) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

There are many things about to come, that will cause this no doubt; but the qualifier from Jesus indicates, this particular "fear" will be coming from the second heaven (outer space). "Looking after those things which are coming on the earth." Seems to imply advanced warning, such as with telescopes and calculations?

Pertaining to the Greek name of; the number of filthy rich and politically connected people, preparing and buying doomsday bunkers; the sudden appearance of global seed banks: Along with the timing (Israel feast day - Tribulation period) and estimated planetary damage and where it would potentially impact...

This asteroid "Apophis" is exceptionally interesting. Of course, to not cause global panic and chaos, NASA would not disclose it, even if they knew for certain of an impending asteroid collision. Naturally I do not know, but I have a Spidey sense this could perhaps be the biblical "Wormwood?" As time ticks down and if it becomes imminent, there will come a point where governments will not be able to hide it any longer. 

To change the subject: Your government masters are sure tightening the screws down under, on the citizens. I would never have thought, the Australian government would be suppressing the citizens like that? We in the U.S. are not far behind. Is our (my) interpretation of what is happening down under, as bad as what we are hearing in the U.S.? 

 

 

 

[Marilyn C]

8 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I too suspect the Rapture may occur on an Israel feast celebration? There seems to be scriptural support. 

Luke 21:26 (KJV) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

There are many things about to come, that will cause this no doubt; but the qualifier from Jesus indicates, this particular "fear" will be coming from the second heaven (outer space). "Looking after those things which are coming on the earth." Seems to imply advanced warning, such as with telescopes and calculations?

Pertaining to the Greek name of; the number of filthy rich and politically connected people, preparing and buying doomsday bunkers; the sudden appearance of global seed banks: Along with the timing (Israel feast day - Tribulation period) and estimated planetary damage and where it would potentially impact...

This asteroid "Apophis" is exceptionally interesting. Of course, to not cause global panic and chaos, NASA would not disclose it, even if they knew for certain of an impending asteroid collision. Naturally I do not know, but I have a Spidey sense this could perhaps be the biblical "Wormwood?" As time ticks down and if it becomes imminent, there will come a point where governments will not be able to hide it any longer. 

To change the subject: Your government masters are sure tightening the screws down under, on the citizens. I would never have thought, the Australian government would be suppressing the citizens like that? We in the U.S. are not far behind. Is our (my) interpretation of what is happening down under, as bad as what we are hearing in the U.S.? 

 

 

 

Hi Dennis,

Probably worse. We can`t visit people in their homes but can at the pub!!! I go to a friend`s place and drive the car behind her gates so the police can`t check the number plates as to where I have come from, (if from a hot spot) or to see if I am visiting. As I go to share and pray and have a bible study I believe I am under the Lord`s protection. However if I have to pay a fine or go to prison, then the Lord is with me. 

And this is just in regional area, not the cities. They are kept in their boxes, units and can only go a certain distance to get food or walk for a short time. Absolutely insane. 

My hubby and I live on a few acres in a farming area so we are not really `shut in,` and enjoy the outdoors and hubby helping the farmers around.

Lots of interesting points you have made. Now as to the Rapture occurring on a Feast Day, I see that it will occur before the Feast of Trumpets, which heralds the Day of the Lord. And I see that is after the Feast of Purim, 15th of Adar in Jerusalem, (Esther 9: 18 & 19). I go into detail on my new blog - `The Lord`s Feasts.`   

[Starise]

Just a word of encouragement. Don't get discouraged if the "rapture" doesn't seem to be happening when you suspected it would. The Lord is not slack concerning His word. There WILL be a great taking up of the saints both dead and alive. I think it's going to get worse before that happens though.

[Justin Adams]

On 9/23/2021 at 3:57 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Never before has there been a convergence of everything prophetic.

Those that study history might not agree. Those that chase after anti-Christs, mob's, 7 year this and that have to butcher the scriptures and then find their predictions false. They never recant but keep churning out the same old semi-dispensational hyperbole.

Yeshua is enthroned now and believers should be about spreading the gospel and by attrition (one soul at a time) we do warfare and God always wins in the end. The Lord High God is always sovereign.