APRIL 8th PREDICTION

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Today, most scholars are waiting for the revival of the ancient Roman Empire, the EU, to become the worlds final Empire, which will lead the world into a global government.  This revival is the feet of iron and clay.  And just as legs are different than feet, so will this revived empire be different from its predecessor.  Most scholars though, are waiting to see a strong military superpower to rival the U.S., but that's not the way it appears to be going.  Instead, the EU is becoming the worlds largest and strongest economy and a very strong player in the peace process. 

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Doesn't seem to me that Europe is so terribly unified. They have far too much parochialism going on. Some of them don't even want to use the euro.

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Most Important Speech

Last month, Time Magazine revealed its annual list of 100 of the world's most influential people. And, sure enough, Time's list for 2005 includes the EU's Javier Solana. You will find him under the heading, Leaders and Revolutionaries (Read about it here)>>>> http://press.arrivenet.com/bus/article.php/618038.html

Well, this month it happened again. Another major publication did the same -- this time in Europe. The Polish Gazeta Wyborcza gave Javier Solana its Man of the Year 2005 Award.

I understand why Solana was chosen. Solana continues to score diplomatic winners. For example, when the Ukraine recently found itself balancing precariously between Europe and the Russian Federation, it was Solana's diplomacy that tipped the former Soviet nation away from Russia and towards becoming a member of the EU. And, although there hasn't been much recognition by the public, there evidently are many in the press who have come to appreciate Solana's achievements.

This brings me to what I think may be -- as far as Bible prophecy is concerned -- one of the most important speeches ever given. Solana is in Warsaw accepting his award. And, in this one speech, we find the necessary elements for the final events of prophecy. I recommend that you read the entire speech (Read speech here)>>>> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:kuBYJdo...+award%22&hl=en

After reviewing the history of Poland and the European project, Solana gives us his own three reasons for a united Europe. Solana says:

"For me, the case for Europe rests essentially on three arguments. First, to exorcise the demons of our past. Second, to extend the zone of peace and prosperity across our continent. And third to deal with a borderless and chaotic world."

Here we basically find the EU's so-called "Solana Doctrine" being revised a bit for his Polish audience. The "demons" Solana is referring to are the European wars of the past. Poland, as you know, was one of the nations that suffered the most in past wars. The "zone of peace" isn't a new concept. It is what his new European Neighborhood Policy is about. And, his "borderless and chaotic world" is just another reference to his proposed joint EU/US war against weapons of mass destruction and rogue states.

Then, in this speech, Solana begins talking about something that may have huge implications as far as prophecy is concerned. He begins describing a coming seven-year period when the EU will begin engaging their neighbors with significantly increased economic and political resources to create that "zone of peace." And, that "zone of peace" includes God's little nation Israel. Solana says:

"Since last year, we have been putting flesh on the bones of our European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP), which applies to Eastern Europe, the southern Caucasus but also the Mediterranean. In less than two years - incredibly fast by Brussels standards - we have moved from general principles to tailor-made action plans which are being agreed with our partners."

As I've been reporting, these "action plans" are the EU's way of strengthening the failing Barcelona Process agreement that Solana negotiated back in 1995. This agreement was between the 15 EU nations and 12 Mediterranean nations. In other words, the purpose of Solana's ENP is to confirm his previous covenant with many nations. And, it will be for a seven-year period. Solana says:

"The Neighbourhood policy will engage significant resources: the offer of a stake in the internal market plus

[stevehut]

Hey Thunder, you gonna say something here, or just post these sensationalist headlines? Not sure that anything here is helping anyone...

[Lorie Eikenbary]

Stevehut~

Personally speaking........Thunder's posts, whether his own or the posts of Herb's articles........are very helpful to me. They are also very relevent to what the original post's subject addressed. This last article posted was quite possibly the biggest clue to who or at least who's position we ought to be looking out for. We don't need to know who the AC will be but, it does give good insights to the timeline of prophecy and makes us (if we are at all paying attention and want to "see the changing of the seasons") desire to be prepared and literally LOOKING for the coming of Christ!!!!!! WE ARE TO BE AWARE OF THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES. And if ANYTHING shows the signs of our times.....it's this European leader who rising to the top has just begun and whose goal is to bring peace to the world under one unified group of leaders ultimately under one head........himself. Even going as far as outlining a seven year time period in which this could occur!!!!!!!

I would say that.......IN MY OPIONION........ALL of his postings are helpful, relevant and very on target to the bible prophecy coming to pass more and more every day in these last days.

In Christ,

Lorie

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Hey Thunder, you gonna say something here, or just post these sensationalist headlines?    Not sure that anything here is helping anyone...

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What do you want me to say?

Did something I posted offend you, or are you just looking for another good for nothing argument? If it's the latter, I'd advise you to go swim in a different pond. After all, no one is forcing you to swim in this one.

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German defence minister knocks NATO

13.05.2005 - 09:44 CET | By Honor Mahony

German defence minister Peter Struck has criticised NATO saying it must become a stronger forum for political and strategic dialogue between transatlantic partners.

"That was certainly not the case very often in the last years", said Mr Struck. He said that while NATO had made progress with its military transformation, it had yet to place value on being more political.

Mr Struck made the comments before the think tank, the German Society for Foreign Policy, at an event looking at the challenges ahead for the alliance, according to German daily S

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Ethical question marks over EU Constitution

12.05.2005 - 18:41 CET | By Lucia Kubosova

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The Catholic Church has officially endorsed the EU Constitution but concerns among some groups remain about its possible implications for future decisions on issues such as abortion, euthanasia or women priests.

While leaving it up to believers to decide how to vote in referendums, Brussels-based Commission of the Bishops' Conferences of the European Community (COMECE) has previously expressed its support for the new treaty.

But several pro-life and religious activists argue the Charter of Fundamental Rights, which is a part of the European Constitution, includes ambiguous definitions of some human rights, which could lead to their interpretation by the EU top court in a way that runs counter to traditional Christian principles.

At the same time, feminist and pro-abortion lobby groups are making it clear they want to use the provisions of the Charter to extend human rights protection in controversial areas, especially in countries with stricter legislation.

Whose rights to protect first?

John Smeaton from the Society for the protection of the unborn children, a London-based NGO, argues that the Charter of Fundamental Rights does not satisfy the expectations of many.

"It is not enough to express a protection of human dignity, while at the same time making possible to violate it through further jurisdiction", he told the EUobserver.

According to Mr Smeaton, once the Charter becomes a legally binding part of the new EU Constitution, Europe could see a similar development to the United States where the rights of women and unborn children have come into conflict.

He says the rights of women have become prioritised leading to pro-abortion rulings.

Similar concerns have been voiced about assisted suicide with respect to the provision on the right for "human dignity" and "mental integrity", according to Mr Smeaton.

Noel Treanor, COMECE secretary general, admits that these fears remain in the Catholic and other churches in Europe.

But he pointed out that the Constitution sets out the areas of competence between the EU and member states and that issues like abortion or euthanasia are matters for individual countries to decide upon.

"However, the future is never totally foreseeable, one does not know in which direction the jurisprudence can develop".

"The church will continue to make a vital contribution to the public debate on these issues", Mr Treanor told the EUobserver.

Pro-life activists disagree, according to John Smeaton. "What we

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Quickly, quietly the EU gains superpower status

By DON MELVIN

Cox News Service

Friday, May 06, 2005

BRUSSELS, Belgium

[stevehut]

Did something I posted offend you, or are you just looking for another good for nothing argument? 

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Nope. Just trying to understand your viewpoint. And some independent thinking would be nice as well.

[Guest Reverend Turmoil]

Stevehut~

  Personally speaking........Thunder's posts, whether his own or the posts of Herb's articles........are very helpful to me.  They are also very relevent to what the original post's subject addressed.  This last article posted was quite possibly the biggest clue to who or at least who's position we ought to be looking out for.  We don't need to know who the AC will be but, it does give good insights to the timeline of prophecy and makes us (if we are at all paying attention and want to "see the changing of the seasons") desire to be prepared and literally LOOKING for the coming of Christ!!!!!!    WE ARE TO BE AWARE OF THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES.  And if ANYTHING  shows the signs of our times.....it's this European leader who rising to the top has just begun and whose goal is to bring peace to the world  under one unified group of leaders ultimately under one head........himself.  Even going as far as outlining a seven year time period in which this could occur!!!!!!! 

      I would say that.......IN MY OPIONION........ALL of his postings are helpful, relevant and very on target to the bible prophecy coming to pass more and more every day in these last days.

In Christ,

Lorie

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Lorie,

I've asked Mr. Thunder, and many others several times to produce one scripture that ties the origin of the anti-christ to the EU or Rome. Nobody has accomplished that. There isn't one verse of scripture that anybody can produce, without manufacturing one, that links the EU or Rome to any future prophecies.

He considers this thread a thread of his own and doesn't like opposition to his view and doesn't care to confront the issue because he say's he doesn't have time and that we should start a thread of our own. .

I challenge anybody to quote a single verse of scripture that shows that the EU will become the origin of the antichrist...and I will produce five to show his origin comes from those who are Israel's long time enemy, ie. Arab and Muslim.

Consider the scriptures for yourself, not some theory that comes from prejudiced Protestants. That's where the Rome, EU theory comes from.

Be leary of believing that the anti-christ will become a peacemaker for Isreal. Every verse of prophecy that I read states the he will be a war monger that the name of Israel be no more in rememberance.

God bless in what you do,

Reverend Turmoil