Here I go again

[Starise]

17 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Waz up Starise?

One of the OPs topics was Jesus' ethnicity, which I gave my thoughts. The "theories" I was thinking about, as far as skin pigmentation, that I didn't address as stated. Were all the commentaries out there of Ham being the father of the black race; Japheth the Europeans and Chinese etc.; adaptations of the environment and climate through migrations and the like. All of which are not biblically addressed.

Here I thought the Jews were separate from the Gentile world, and God's peculiar chosen people? An identifiable ethnic and cultural people through the millennia. That did not breed themselves out like the Samaritans eventually did. But I got corrected by a self-righteous know it all. You just can't give your biblical perspective on here anymore, without something coming out of the wood work.

Ok here thanks for asking Dennis. Hope you are well.

I agree race isn't something the Bible goes into great detail on other than those snippets we read about the tower of Babel which doesn't expressly say race was involved. We read about the different peoples apart from the Jews seldom described by traits and appearance. We might simply read about the Assyrians or the Babylonians. We don't read about dark haired dark skinned people or light haired light skinned people.I see it as more than simply skin color.There are inherent racial characteristics. It's the reason the seat in my Japanese car is too small for many north Americans. There are many characteristics of each race that set them apart as Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic and so forth. Back in those days there was probably less mixing of the types since transportation would have been very primitive. Now days an American could be ANY race. Same in the UK and probably to some degree everywhere now. The races tend to marry in their own race most of the time but not always because they tend to be the people who are around.

The question for how things happened over time is probably a very large thread in the scientific section. I lived in the deep south for a large part of my life and was out in the sun constantly with no air conditioning. I was far from fair skinned. Even today I still have the darker arms. I believe there is some credibility to changes over time passed on to the children.

The Shem, Ham and Japeth explanation does not wash with me. Mainly because I have never seen such a variation in one family. The genetics require that staying too close in the DNA mix can cause problems. I don't mean people in West Virginia who marry their cousins are a common thing, but it happens as does the occasional small person syndrome that happens in the Amish community here where I live. They tend to marry close in the gene pool but not West Virginia close.

So where does that leave us? Does it really matter? I like to study these things. So far as what color Jesus was. He was not a light skinned white man. Of that we can be sure. When He transfigured to glory, I think He was in a different state and the reason why He is described the way He is in Revelation. The new body will be transdimentional I believe. When you're in that dimension it's different.

The subject so far as how it relates to Jews and Gentiles has no significance because ALL men were grafted into the Jewish tree. At least all men who accept Jesus Christ as their savior. 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Starise