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Is it membership or patronage that makes us the Lords church? It says where two or three gathered in His name there he is in their mist.  Can one still be personal with Jesus and not a patron? Im  a loner for reasons. Im not saying that others be as me still we should check our motives. 

Paul said in know ye not ye are the Temple and the Spirit of God is in you. If one was a loner could people or friends see Jesus in you  What is it that really makes us a believer and follower of Him? One day the church might have to scatter. Would we still mirror His image? It is my faith that keeps me going and grace is all that I can live by. 

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1 hour ago, Mike Mclees said:

Is it membership or patronage that makes us the Lords church? It says where two or three gathered in His name there he is in their mist.  Can one still be personal with Jesus and not a patron? Im  a loner for reasons. Im not saying that others be as me still we should check our motives. 

Paul said in know ye not ye are the Temple and the Spirit of God is in you. If one was a loner could people or friends see Jesus in you  What is it that really makes us a believer and follower of Him? One day the church might have to scatter. Would we still mirror His image? It is my faith that keeps me going and grace is all that I can live by. 

Are you talking about a building that is the Church or the worldwide born again believers in Jesus Christ that is the Church?

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3 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

Is it membership or patronage that makes us the Lords church? It says where two or three gathered in His name there he is in their mist.  Can one still be personal with Jesus and not a patron? Im  a loner for reasons. Im not saying that others be as me still we should check our motives. 

Paul said in know ye not ye are the Temple and the Spirit of God is in you. If one was a loner could people or friends see Jesus in you  What is it that really makes us a believer and follower of Him? One day the church might have to scatter. Would we still mirror His image? It is my faith that keeps me going and grace is all that I can live by. 

Patron.. "a person who gives financial or other support to a person, organization, cause, or activity." or "a customer, especially a regular one, of a store, restaurant, or theater. "we surveyed the plushness of the hotel and its sleek, well-dressed patrons"

No does not make us like a Church. We are the Church already. This "patron" is not how Christ looks at us. Faith.. its not man that supplies all our needs. Preacher needed allot of money and prayed. He said two angels show up that so tall. All the said was "we are waiting for the command". At first he had no clue what they meant then.. it hit him.. the word of GOD! He spoke the word of God they vanished. About a week later man comes in drops this bag of money very hard on his desk says "I don't like you but the lord told me to give this to you". It was the exact to the penny he needed. There are tons of stories like this. If we go to man.. God will not say a word. If we go to GOD remind Him He is the one that said He supplies all your needs. 

For me "patron" .. leave a bad taste so to speak. Used by the world now more then ever. Want this want that..oh you got be a patron to get it. See your not paying for it no no your giving them a gift and in return you get what they draw make a mod you name it. Not all but most do this. 

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3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Are you talking about a building that is the Church or the worldwide born again believers in Jesus Christ that is the Church?

Let me ask you, do believe you could be saved without belonging to or going to an organized church. Like in another thread there are a thousand denominations and many different beliefs, doctrines and idealism. Aside from that there is corruption. If the Lord came today which one of these churches which a misnomer will He call his denomination. the church are the saints which is us. You can meet under a tree in the park. Where two or three are gathered there He is.  Im not going to heaven because I meet as believers should. I am saved because I believe. the building is only a house of meeting. What do you think?   

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Let me ask you, do believe you could be saved without belonging to or going to an organized church. Like in another thread there are a thousand denominations and many different beliefs, doctrines and idealism. Aside from that there is corruption. If the Lord came today which one of these churches which a misnomer. We do go to church. the church are the saints which is us. You can meet under a tree in the park. Where two or three are gathered there He is.  Im not going to heaven because I meet as believers should. I am saved because I believe. the building is only a house of meeting. What do you think?   

A Church is a nice gathering place to hear the true literal Word of God. If you are not hearing the true literal truth of God in the Bible at the Church it is doing more damage than good. Jesus Christ did not have a denomination. He doesn't care about denominations only that people are not getting false teaching. 

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16 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

A Church is a nice gathering place to hear the true literal Word of God. If you are not hearing the true literal truth of God in the Bible at the Church it is doing more damage than good. Jesus Christ did not have a denomination. He doesn't care about denominations only that people are not getting false teaching. 

Can a loner be saved.   I was not always a loner but I no longer believe in denominationalism and the many different beliefs. Its all a long story. However not many could go the road I'm on. We have to live out our walk in spirit and in truth.  

One thing more Im am not trying to say we don't need others. We need to be centered I wanting to be a true follower. Blessed are those who  hunger and thirst. 

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Can a loner be saved.   I was not always a loner but I no longer believe in denominationalism and the many different beliefs. Its all a long story. However not many could go the road I'm on. We have to live out our walk in spirit and in truth.  

Of course a loner can be saved. It all depends on where their heart is and if they are a believer of Jesus Christ. God is always with you no matter what narrow road you are on. 

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Of course a loner can be saved. It all depends on where their heart is and if they are a believer of Jesus Christ. God is always with you no matter what narrow road you are on. 

Thank you missmuffet. 

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