Head Covering for women.

[Guest Zayit]

NO, unbelievers who are ignorant I have compassion for, newbies that come here and try to push what sounds like a new age agenda I don't condone.

Zayit ~ Wow, really? You know I read about head-covering and I justified it too by saying it wasn't for now, I did that for years, yet the Spirit kept nudging me about it, and kept bringing it to mind, till finally I was obedient. :So now should I presume I didn't hear right? It wasn't meaningless to him, in fact he has shown me how meaningful it is.

Ringo~ Yes, YOU should definitely presume that.

G-d has not changed, he still made man first and the woman came from the man, the man is head over the woman and Yeshua is head over the man and the Father is head over all. The L-RD wanted me to signify this relationship, so I obeyed him. It is sad that you would give credit to HaSatan for doing something like that when it has been his agenda always to confuse about the order of creation.

I heard right, it took years of convincing me , but the L-RD was patient, and now I am to believe you? IDTS!

[nebula]

I meant to post this last night - but had internet connection issues - so here it is, a bit late:

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So you don't believe Paul is trying to teach us something here?

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Honestly, no.

Paul is not trying to teach something?

I say, let's ALL (e.g., the other 99% ... LOL!) get filled to overflowing, and then we will make judgments about these types of issues.  I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't seem near as important, then, as they do now!  Glory!

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It's attitudes like this that make everyone els think us Charasmatics are a bunch of "dessert-lovers."

If we are not producing fruit and teaching each other how to produce fruit (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control - note the highlighted ones! ) - what good is our walk?

[Guest Ringo]

NO, unbelievers who are ignorant I have compassion for, newbies that come here and try to push what sounds like a new age agenda I don't condone.

Zayit ~ Wow, really? You know I read about head-covering and I justified it too by saying it wasn't for now, I did that for years, yet the Spirit kept nudging me about it, and kept bringing it to mind, till finally I was obedient. :So now should I presume I didn't hear right? It wasn't meaningless to him, in fact he has shown me how meaningful it is.

Ringo~ Yes, YOU should definitely presume that.

G-d has not changed, he still made man first and the woman came from the man, the man is head over the woman and Yeshua is head over the man and the Father is head over all. The L-RD wanted me to signify this relationship, so I obeyed him. It is sad that you would give credit to HaSatan for doing something like that when it has been his agenda always to confuse about the order of creation.

I heard right, it took years of convincing me , but the L-RD was patient, and now I am to believe you? IDTS!

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You are not interested in hearing, or learning. I do not have anything further to say to you. Your heart is closed and your mouth is open; that's a deadly combination.

[Guest Ringo]

I meant to post this last night - but had internet connection issues - so here it is, a bit late:

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So you don't believe Paul is trying to teach us something here?

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Honestly, no.

Paul is not trying to teach something?

I say, let's ALL (e.g., the other 99% ... LOL!) get filled to overflowing, and then we will make judgments about these types of issues.

Edited September 5, 2005 by Ringo

[Guest Ringo]

To those of us in modern culture who are considering this question merely on the basis of what is written in the Bible, the idea of wearing a hat is SILLY!

I would never want to malign something that is meaningful to a person, but bearing that in mind, we need to move as fast as we can from religious terms and definitions.

The kingdom of God is about the beautiful Holy Spirit breaking forth with singing within us, and in all of creation.

[Elisabeth]

Actually, I remember a bible class we had a church a couple years ago on Paul's letters to the Corinthians.

[AliveInHim]

I apologize if I was unclear here.  But I do believe that Jesus has liberated women, and men. Through Him, we have freedom we did not have before.

If one looks at the society and culture during Jesus' life, I do believe He liberated women at that time; for example, no other Jewish man would have spoken to the woman at the well the way He did; no other "religious leader" would have allowed a prostitute to come in and wash his feet with her perfume and her hair.  That is what I mean by Jesus' liberating women.

I can tell you personally that Jesus has liberated me from the lies and deceit of Satan, and much misery from my past.  Hallelujah, He has liberated me!!

And as far as Jesus not caring; uh, okay, forgive me for using a figure of speech.    I'll rephrase it:  I do not believe that Jesus is concerned with whether or not I wear a hat or head covering to church; I do believe that He is concerned, and does CARE, about the condition of my heart. 

I believe all of this falls into the same category as much of Paul's other teachings; while we might be free to do something, if it hurts us or hurts someone else if we do or don't do it, then we should always choose to do that which glorifies God. 

Therefore, my salvation is not dependent on whether or not I wear a head covering!  But, if doing so brings glory to God and helps to win someone to the Kingdom, then I should do it.

Elizabeth,

I agree with your above quote!

[Elisabeth]

Elizabeth,

I agree with your above quote!  

Gee, thanks!

[NITE OWL]

I apologize if I was unclear here.

[eric]

Do I smell a hint of dispensationlism. in some of these posts?

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