Neandertals

[Anne]

Nothing wrong with pointing out what you believe let's shake hands and get along

[Nanners]

Smiles,

Awful, but the problem is more complex than that. It's the teachers, the ammount of Christian homeschooling (eurghghg), the extent of Christian propaganda against evolution in the evangelical community, a general mistrust of science growing in society, and to a great extent kids just don't want to believe in it, because it contradicts their religious indoctrination.

Yes, it is VERY complex because we have a complex Creator. None of this could have happened by chance.

So you've got a variety of issues in play here, but yes, evolution is taught very very poorly in schools.

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I have to agree with you on that one.

[mrs]

Smiles,

I guess this means the public school textbooks aren't doing a very good job of teaching evolution correctly then?

Awful, but the problem is more complex than that. It's the teachers, the ammount of Christian homeschooling (eurghghg), the extent of Christian propaganda against evolution in the evangelical community, a general mistrust of science growing in society, and to a great extent kids just don't want to believe in it, because it contradicts their religious indoctrination.

So you've got a variety of issues in play here, but yes, evolution is taught very very poorly in schools.

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lol so now the evidence against evolution is propaganda?I don't see a distrust of science in society, but maybe there's a good reason for that - how can you trust something that is always changing?Perhaps the reason the majority of Americans still believe in some sort of Creator is because they can see the evidence for Him.

Evolution may be taught incorrectly according to those who know the theory well. But it is still heavily impressed on children's minds, without alternative evidence put forth.So it would seem reasonable to assume that most would accept it willing, taking into consideration the lack of religious training in a large number of homes. Even for children of, lets say, fundamental Christians, they hear all week everywhere they go evolution/humanism in some form or another; and Christian teaching mainly Sunday morning.The fact that many still believe in a Creator is to me evidence that evolution just isn't a satisfactory explanation of the world around us.

[Guest Zayit]

If we are the result of evolution, whereas we evolved from slime to fish to land then to monkeys and so called Neandrothal man then to man as we know it, then why are there still fish and monkeys around?

Darwinism is so blantantly anti-creation that it boggles my mind how many intellegent men and woman could be taken in by it. But anything to justify sin.

It has been SAtans plan all along to discredit the Creator G-d for when he does then he can be elevated because that is one thing he can't do, create. Same reason why the Sabbath is so highly disputed, change from creation to salvation to resurrection. Change the POV and change the way he is seen in human eyes.

[mrs]

Yah I've also been hearing that the quality of education in America is getting rather poor.Maybe part of the problem is when they pass kids getting only 50% on a test?

[Guest Zayit]

Evolution is taught on TV all the time, also in music, advertising, products it is everywhere, much subliminal but there. If you look at things through the eyes of the word you will see it.

[Bread_of_Life]

smiles,

lol so now the evidence against evolution is propaganda?

Yes, essentially it is. It certainly isn't, from creationists that is, scientific evidence.

I don't see a distrust of science in society, but maybe there's a good reason for that - how can you trust something that is always changing?

I think people need the security of absolutes - absolutes are simple and cut and dried. Science is iterative - theories are likely only to contain a portion of the truth - a large portion mind you - but they are an approximation to truth nevertheless. That means they do change, because the evidence changes - and people, because they don't understand the refining process that is science, might mischaracterise this as a weakness rather than an essential strength of the method. But that's because they're epistemologically naive, not because science is genuinely poor.

Evolution may be taught incorrectly according to those who know the theory well. But it is still heavily impressed on children's minds, without alternative evidence put forth.

There is no scientific evidence against it, currently. That's probably why evidence against it isn't presented. The real problem is though, nor is evidence for it, a lot of the time. It's just kinda taught as fact, which is extremely poor practice in scientific education.

Even for children of, lets say, fundamental Christians, they hear all week everywhere they go evolution/humanism in some form or another; and Christian teaching mainly Sunday morning.

Evolution and humanism are different. Evolution is a theory about the origin of species of life, humanism is a moral theory. I doubt you have difficulty distinguishing these though, not genuinely?

The fact that many still believe in a Creator is to me evidence that evolution just isn't a satisfactory explanation of the world around us.

Evolution is not opposed in any sense to the idea of a creator. Many people believe in both, evidence that creation and evolution are not ideas that are opposed necessarily.

The fact that people believe in creationism over evolution can only be because they do not understand or know the evidence, because they deliberately reject that evidence, or because they are so stupid, and this is a small minority of cases, that they literally cannot move from evidence to conclusion - they cannot form valid logical syllogisms. The latter is very rare, in my experience.