What Does the Bible Say About Christmas? It is Wrong to Celebrate It?

[Sower]

3 hours ago, Bawb said:

What Does the Bible Say About Christmas? It is Wrong to Celebrate It?

 

Hast thou faith? have it to thyself  before God.

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith:

for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

 

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, we have boldness toward God;
and whatsoever we ask we receive of him, because we keep his commandments
and do the things that are pleasing in his sight.

And this is his commandment,

that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ,

and love one another, even as he gave us commandment.

 

[walla299]

57 minutes ago, teddyv said:

Do we need to spawn all these threads all over the place?

Good point. 

Welcome to the "Christmas is Evil" thread season. This kind of thing happens just about every year, except for last year we didn't have so many of them. 

On the OP:

Celebrate Christmas or don't. We have that freedom in Christ. Personally I don't have a problem with Christmas so long as it's kept about Christ. It's also the one time of year you can bring Jesus and the gospel into a conversion without everyone flipping out over it. So, its a great time of year for evangelism. Besides, why should the pagans get to have all the cookies and great food?

If a person doesn't want to celebrate Christmas or any other day that's their personal choice. So long as they don't come at it like a Pharisee in trying to coerce others into following their rules, its their choice and that's fine.

[Bawb]

1 hour ago, teddyv said:

Do we need to spawn all these threads all over the place?

You chose to participate... You could have easily ignored it...

[Bawb]

8 minutes ago, walla299 said:

Good point. 

Welcome to the "Christmas is Evil" thread season. This kind of thing happens just about every year, except for last year we didn't have so many of them. 

Hate me for the truth, but do not love me for a lie.  I have no pleasant words to tickle your itching ears today...

[Bawb]

32 minutes ago, Sower said:

 

Hast thou faith? have it to thyself  before God.

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith:

for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

 

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, we have boldness toward God;
and whatsoever we ask we receive of him, because we keep his commandments
and do the things that are pleasing in his sight.

And this is his commandment,

that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ,

and love one another, even as he gave us commandment.

 

Not one mention of Christmas or the pagan practices that were in YeHoVah's instructions not to worship Him with...

[teddyv]

6 minutes ago, Bawb said:

You chose to participate... You could have easily ignored it...

Hard to ignore when you and your cohorts are posting this stuff seemingly in all the forums.

[Bawb]

17 minutes ago, walla299 said:

Good point. 

Welcome to the "Christmas is Evil" thread season. This kind of thing happens just about every year, except for last year we didn't have so many of them. 

On the OP:

It's also the one time of year you can bring Jesus and the gospel into a conversion without everyone flipping out over it.

I say this in love brother...

As someone who was once an unbeliever who once persecuted Christians, I would have torn to shreds your feeble attempt to witness based on lies. I would have systematically picked apart every aspect of these pagan traditions. I would have given you verifiable historical evidence of what false gods were said to be born on 25 Dec. Then I would have shown how the RCC stole all of the vile and abominated practices and associated them with Yeshua (renamed Jesus). And then I would have used these things to refute Christianity. Chistmas and Easter are pagan through and through and have nothing to do with Yeshua or YeHoVah. They were syncretized by the RCC and found NOWHERE in the Bible. For a while the Protestant churches stopped doing these things. But then, just like a dog to its vomit, they began once more.

Matthew 7:24 through 27 - 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

The bottom line: When you evangelize based on lies, you build your house on shifting sands. If you are going to proclaim truth, you'd better stick with the truth and not begin with a pack of lies...

[teddyv]

2 minutes ago, Bawb said:

I say this in love brother...

As someone who was once an unbeliever who once persecuted Christians, I would have torn to shreds your feeble attempt to witness based on lies. I would have systematically picked apart every aspect of these pagan traditions. I would have given you verifiable historical evidence of what false gods were said to be born on 25 Dec. Then I would have shown how the RCC stole all of the vile and abominated practices and associated them with Yeshua (renamed Jesus). And then I would have used these things to refute Christianity. Chistmas and Easter are pagan through and through and have nothing to do with Yeshua or YeHoVah. They were syncretized by the RCC and found NOWHERE in the Bible. For a while the Protestant churches stopped doing these things. But then, just like a dog to its vomit, they began once more.

Matthew 7:24 through 27 - 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

The bottom line: When you evangelize based on lies, you build your house on shifting sands. If you are going to proclaim truth, you'd better stick with the truth and not begin with a pack of lies...

So you held these views while an unbeliever?

[Bawb]

1 hour ago, teddyv said:

So you held these views while an unbeliever?

No, but as an unbeliever I certainly knew what paganism was then. Therefore, I know its stench and saw it all over Christ-Mass.

And I would use how the RCC syncretized every aspect of paganism and called it Christianity. I also knew the evilness of the RCC. I know how they killed millions of people if they did not believe in their lies such as Christ-mass. Everything about this day is a lie. That's what even I knew as an unbeliever.

Now I am a believer. I search for the truth in the Word and only adhere to Scripture. And Christ-Mass is not truth...

I say these things with sincere truth and believe it or not with love in my heart. I don't like people being lied to as so many have by the RCC. I know what the Bible says about recycling the abominable pagan practices and I truly fear for my brothers and sisters who can not see the truth in front of their face. It pains me that so many are so woefully misled.

I say these things not to steal people's joy for there is enough sorrow in the world. But is it love to conceal the truth? Yeshua told us to love one another. Therefore, this is what I must proclaim. Knowing what I know, how am I to be silent?

I wish you peace Brother...

Edited December 6, 2021 by Bawb

[Sower]

12 minutes ago, Bawb said:

Not one mention of Christmas or the pagan practices that were in YeHoVah's instructions not to worship Him with...

No, no mention of Christmas or pagan practices;
Nor was there a mention of lust, or anger, dancing or women's pants,  or gluttony and drunkenness, BBQ, pride or revenge, giving,  church denomination, sausage, etc etc etc...

The Lord used the word    'WHATSOEVER'......       I feel certain you understand the meaning of His word here, Bawb....

48 minutes ago, Sower said:

Hast thou faith? have it to thyself  before God.

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

I believe God gave us this scripture to draw upon the spirit's leading. God wants the heart.
Meat sacrificed to false gods is still good meat, so bless it and eat,  knowing there is only one God. (faith)
Not everyone is convinced in his own mind, though. The weaker brethren in the faith.

Here is a good one many do not consider here on worthy.
"Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions."

whatsoever is not of faith is sin.   This is a biggie, for me, as it covers everything.....whatsoever.

I strive to apply those verses to all thought, and actions. Whatsoever....

I try to allow the spirit to give direction. He's real. Waiting for spiritual confirmation (in whatsoever I do).
And the Faith/confidence that follows. (green light!) Or not, (red light) as when the flesh is weak. (sin)
Work in progress.  Thank you for your reply, Bawb.   PS, I'm an ex-RCC, 30 yrs, quiet aware of their dogma.