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7 minutes ago, The Light said:

There will be a 1000 year millennial kingdom on the earth, just as the Word says. At the end of the 1000 years Satan will be loosed out of his prison and will deceive the nations again, just as the Word says.

Is someone teaching you this nonsense, or are you making this stuff up on your own? None of the things you are saying agree with what the Word of God says. 

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ, that will never take place

(Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

Afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end
, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.


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Posted
8 minutes ago, The Light said:

There will be a 1000 year millennial kingdom on the earth, just as the Word says. At the end of the 1000 years Satan will be loosed out of his prison and will deceive the nations again, just as the Word says.

Is someone teaching you this nonsense, or are you making this stuff up on your own? None of the things you are saying agree with what the Word of God says. 

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, The Light said:

 The Word says at the end of wrath that Jesus will set His feet on the Mount of Olives, and that's what going to happen. There will be a 1000 year millennial kingdom on the earth, just as the Word says. At the end of the 1000 years Satan will be loosed out of his prison and will deceive the nations again, just as the Word says.

Is someone teaching you this nonsense, or are you making this stuff up on your own? None of the things you are saying agree with what the Word of God says. 

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom, Not A Millennial Kingdom As Many Claim

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of Armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

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Posted
1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Come on. The nations that are deceived at the end of the 1000 years ARE ON EARTH.

The souls of those that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus WERE RESURRECTED and received NEW BODIES. 

They reign on earth, where the nations are.

 

 

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Governments seem to be suddenly turning on a dime with regard to the pandemic response.  I know the data is encouraging, but the sudden simultaneousness of this makes me wonder if it has to do with them anticipating the possibility of being involved in this war with Russia and all the expense that would entail.


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1 minute ago, The Light said:

Dude. The new heaven and the new earth happens after the 1000 years. I can't figure out how you can get this lost.

Because scripture clearly says the new heavens/earth happens at the coming of Christ, as does the catching away of the church to forever be with the Lord, as does the judgment of this world.  All stated in the bible to take place at the return of Jesus.

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1 minute ago, Heleadethme said:

Because scripture clearly says the new heavens/earth happens at the coming of Christ, as does the catching away of the church to forever be with the Lord, as does the judgment of this world.  All stated in the bible to take place at the return of Jesus.

Amen!

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4 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

Because scripture clearly says the new heavens/earth happens at the coming of Christ, as does the catching away of the church to forever be with the Lord, as does the judgment of this world.  All stated in the bible to take place at the return of Jesus.

Could you quote that verse where scripture clearly says the new heavens/earth happens at the coming of Christ? We need to determine which coming.

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15 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Once again, do you believe a future war will be fought with Shields, Bows, Arrows, and Spears?

The scripture dosent state, M16 rifles, tanks, helicopters, bazookas, or "Devices"

Daniel 11:25 below strongly suggest rockets being used "Forecast Devices" but in Ezekiel 39 you dont see this term "Device" used, because the weapons are exactly as stated, historical wooden weapons of warfare

Daniel 11:25KJV

25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

Those English words - `shields, bows, arrows and spears` are what some translators have written.

The Hebrew words are -

(shields) `meginnah,`  meaning a protector.

(bows) `qesheth` fig. strength.

(arrows)`chets` pierce, impl. a wound.

(spears)`romach,` meaning to hurl.

It could mean `shields, bows etc` but they are NOT the Heb. meaning. It is what some one thinks it could be. They can mean entirely different things.

 


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Now can we all try and keep to the topic, please. Thank you.

This Russian formation near the Ukraine is happening before us now and we need to keep updated on that and not get side tracked.

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