A BIG Picture!

[Alive]

Rom. 8:18 (NAS20S)   For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. ¹⁹ For the eagerly awaiting creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God. ²⁰ For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope ²¹ that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. ²² For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. ²³ And not only that, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons and daughters, the redemption of our body. ²⁴ For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? ²⁵ But if we hope for what we do not see, through perseverance we wait eagerly for it.

Rom. 8:26 (NAS20S)   Now in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;

[Ani Tefillah]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

Rom. 8:18 (NAS20S)   For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. ¹⁹ For the eagerly awaiting creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God. ²⁰ For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope ²¹ that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. ²² For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. ²³ And not only that, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons and daughters, the redemption of our body. ²⁴ For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? ²⁵ But if we hope for what we do not see, through perseverance we wait eagerly for it.

Rom. 8:26 (NAS20S)   Now in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;

Amen! As an intercessor, I experience daily that the Holy Spirit "groans" etc through me, and sometimes I can only cry 😭 until I feel His wonderful Peace/Shalom, and at that moment I know that something has happened in the spiritual world, and I feel an huge relief 😌. 

It reminds me of a brother in the LORD who shared a testimony from his life. He felt strongly one day that the Lord urged him to rent a cottage and stay there to fast and pray for awhile, and after telling this to his family, he went to the cottage. 

The days he spent there, he did not know concrete what to pray about, so he mainly prayed in the spirit (the new tongues), and after some days, he went home again. 

I believe that he was from Norway, a diligent servant of the Lord. Life went on, and after some years, he went to a foreign country (I don't remember where) to spread the Word, and when he was there, he got arrested for the Lord's sake. 

The prisons in that country was nothing like those "hotel prisons" we have in Norway, so he was in deep agony! 

However, that was the moment when the Holy Spirit reminded him of the fasting and praying days in the cottage, and He said that he had been fasting and praying for that moment! 

He came safely out of the prison, and went back home.... 

[Michael37]

5 hours ago, Alive said:

Rom. 8:18 (NAS20S)   For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Paul suffered a whole heap of stuff but remained certain such things had an expiry date. 

2Co 4:16-18  Therefore we don’t faint, but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is renewed day by day.  (17)  For our light affliction, which is for the moment, works for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory;  (18)  while we don’t look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

We are often given the line that Jesus is always with us no matter what we go through. People go through some terrible ordeals, unspeakable atrocities, and great difficulties. Well He did, so it helps to have His company, knowing that He sees the BIG PICTURE.
 

[Alive]

5 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Paul suffered a whole heap of stuff but remained certain such things had an expiry date. 

2Co 4:16-18  Therefore we don’t faint, but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is renewed day by day.  (17)  For our light affliction, which is for the moment, works for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory;  (18)  while we don’t look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

We are often given the line that Jesus is always with us no matter what we go through. People go through some terrible ordeals, unspeakable atrocities, and great difficulties. Well He did, so it helps to have His company, knowing that He sees the BIG PICTURE.
 

Amen, brother. He never is not with us. That is impossible. 8:28 and psalms 23-28.

[Marathoner]

48 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

We are often given the line that Jesus is always with us no matter what we go through. People go through some terrible ordeals, unspeakable atrocities, and great difficulties. Well He did, so it helps to have His company, knowing that He sees the BIG PICTURE.

“This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that a person will lay down his life for his friends." (John 15:12-13 NASB)

He laid down His life for us all, suffering death for our sake even when we were dead in our trespasses. Well said, brother. Keeping our eyes and hearts fixated upon Christ, we can endure all things no matter how horrid they might seem. I'm fond of saying, "We suffer for only a little while," which the apostle Peter touched upon in the fifth chapter of his first letter. 

We know that the BIG PICTURE is all that matters. 

[Alive]

It seems odd to the natural man, but it is suffering, that makes Christ more real to us.

These things are temperal, Life in Christ is eternal.

Much like the Gospel itself. Foolishness…but the power of God.

[Sower]

9 hours ago, Alive said:

Rom. 8:26 (NAS20S)   Now in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;

Some say; "tongues has disappeared from most of churches who refused Holy Spirit baptism and became Theologians only "

I do not refuse to speak in an unknown language, or tongues, I just never have. Don't know why God left that out of my life.
But he did give me the holy spirit who does a better job than my talking;
"the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words"....as posted above by Alive
He communicates so much better than my tongue how to intercede my weakness to the Father.

[steve morrow]

THE  HELP  OF  THE  SPIRIT 

 

JOHN 6:63  it is  --the spirit-- that quickeneth -- the flesh profiteth nothing  --the words that I speak unto you --  THEY  ARE  SPIRIT -- AND  THEY  ARE  LIFE --

 

THE  WORDS  OF  JESUS  CHRIST 

1 JOHN 5:14  and this is the confidence that we have in  HIM  that  --if we ask anything according to  HIS  will  HE  heareth us--

--5:15-- and if we know that he heareth us whatsoever we ask ---we know that we have the petitions that we desired of  HIM---

2 THESSALONIANS 1:11  wherefore also  ---we pray always for you that---  our  GOD  would count you worthy of this calling  ---and fulfil all the good pleasure of  HIS  goodness and the work of faith with power

JOHN 14:13  and whatsoever you shall ask ---IN  MY  NAME--- that will I do that  THE  FATHER may be glorified in  THE  SON

--14:14-- IF -- you shall ask anything in  MY  NAME  I will do it

--14:15-- IF -- you love  ME  keep  MY  comandments 

--14:16-- and I will PRAY  THE  FATHER  and  HE  shall give you another comforter that  HE  may abide with you forever 

--14:17--even the spirit of truth --- whom the world cannot receive --- because it see  HIM  not neither knoweth  HIM  for  HE  dwelleth with you and shall be in you

--14:18--  I  will not leave you comfortless ---I will come to you---

 

ACTS 9:4  and he fell to the earth and heard a voice saying unto him saul saul why persecutest thou  ME 

--9:5-- and he said who art thou  LORD  and  THE  LORD  said  ---I  AM  JESUS  whom thou persecutest--- it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks

--9:6-- and he trembling and astonished said  LORD  what wilt thou have me to do and  THE  LORD  said unto him ---arise and go into the city and it shall be told thee what thou must do---

 

 

IS  THIS  NOT  TRUE 

JOHN 14:6  JESUS saith unto him  --I am the way -- THE  TRUTH -- and the life -- no man cometh unto  THE  FATHER  but by  ME

JOHN 18:37  pilate therefore said unto  HIM  art thou a king then  JESUS  answered  thou sayest that I am a king to this --end was I born-- and for this cause came I into the world -- that I  SHOULD bear witness unto the truth -- every one that is of the truth heareth  MY  voice

JOHN 10:27  MY  sheep hear  MY  VOICE  and I know them and they follow  ME 

1 JOHN 5:6  this is  HE  that came by water and blood even  JESUS  CHRIST  not by water only but by water and blood ---and it is the spirit that --beareth witness--  because  the spirit is   --TRUTH--

ROMANS 10:17  so then faith cometh by hearing ---and hearing by the word of  GOD---

1 PETER 1:23  being born again not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible ---by the word of  GOD---which liveth and abideth forever---

REVELATION 19:10  and I fell at his feet to worship him and he said unto me see thou do it not I am thy fellowservant and of thy brethren ---that have the testimony of  JESUS --- worship GOD --- for the testimony of  JESUS  is the spirit of prophecy---

-- 19:13--  and  HE  was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood ---and  HIS  name is called the word of  GOD---

JOHN 17:17  sanctify them through thy truth ---thy word is truth---

 

EPHESIANS 5:9  FOR  THE  FRUIT  OF  THE  SPIRIT  IS  IN  ALL  GOODNESS  RIGHTEOUSNESS  AND  TRUTH

PHILIPPIANS 1:19  for I know that this shall turn to my salvation ---through your prayer and the supply of the spirit of  JESUS  CHRIST---

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[steve morrow]

THE  SPIRIT  HELPING  OUR  WEAKNESS  BY  STRENGTH

 

2 CORINTHIANS 12:9  and  HE  said unto me  MY  grace is ---sufficient for thee for -- MY strength -- is made perfect in weakness--- most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities  ---that the --power-- of  CHRIST--- may rest upon me

PROVERBS 18:21  death and life are in the --POWER-- of the tongue  ---and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof---

 

HEBREWS 10:29  of how much sorer punishment suppose you shall he be thought worthy  --- who hath trodden under foot  THE  SON  OF  GOD -- and hath counted the -- the blood of the covenant -- WHEREWITH  HE  WAS  SANCTIFIED  -- an unholy thing  --  and hath done -- DESPITE  THE  SPIRIT  OF  GRACE ---

HEBREWS 12:24  and to  JESUS  the mediator of the new covenant ---and to the blood of sprinkling  --  that speaketh better things than that of abel---

 

ROMANS 5:17  for if by one mans offence death reigned by one much more they they which receive ---abundance of grace  --  and of the gift -- of righteousness -- shall reign in life  -------  BY  ONE  JESUS  CHRIST--- 

PROVERBS 8:8  all the words of  MY  mouth are in righteousness ---there is nothing froward or perverse in them---

ROMANS 8:10  and  --if--  CHRIST  be in you the body is dead because of sin  ---but the spirit is life --- because of righteousness---

PROVERBS 8:13  the fear of  THE  LORD  is to hate ---evil-- pride and arrogancy -- and the evil way  --  I do hate--- 

--8:14--  counsel is mine  --  and sound wisdom  --  I am understanding  --  I  HAVE  STRENGTH --

 

PROVERBS 9:6  forsake the foolish and live  ---and go in the way of understanding---

 

2 TIMOTHY 2:7  CONSIDER  WHAT  I  SAY  AND  THE  LORD  GIVE  YOU  UNDERSTANDING  IN  ALL  THINGS 

 

PROVERBS 21:16  THE  MAN  THAT  WANDERETH  OUT  OF  THE  WAY  OF  UNDERSTANDING  ---SHALL  REMAIN  IN  THE  CONGRGATION  OF  THE  DEAD 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST