Israeli spiritual leader: Katrina is punishment

[Keith]

I don't think I've ever posted a full, long article before, but I am with this one. It's an interesting read with things to think/pray about.

Israeli spiritual leader: Katrina punishment for Gaza evac

Blames disaster on Bush's support of Jewish withdrawal

Posted: September 8, 2005

9:40 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM

[Guest Zayit]

Thanks for the article Keith I just pray that those who can't see will make an eye appointment before it's too late.

[Giaour]

From posted article.

But Rabbi Mordechai Greenwald, leader of a Jerusalem synagogue, said connections between the Gaza evacuation and Katrina should not be made.

"No rabbi can tell you why such a disaster struck," Greenwald told WND. "Doing so, making these statements, is dangerous and counterproductive. There have been debates the past 50 years for the reason of the Holocaust, and we still don't know what it was about. Some things we are not meant to know."

Greenwald said the religious leaders who publicly blame Katrina on U.S. support of the withdrawal "do not speak for the majority of rabbis. We cannot say who is being punished for what."

[Guest yod]

Israel doesn't need America.

[other one]

After spending a very long time mulling this whole subject over, I think I am going to have to agree with Rabbi Mordechai Greenwald.

[other one]

we did deserve it.

Israel doesn't need America.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yod, we have several thousand of the people who have been displaced around now, and I can tell you that none that I have met or seen deserve what happened there.

I certainly don't deserve it either..... I didn't even vote for Mr. Bush, and he is the one that has pushed the Gaza removal more than any other American I know..... and you have thrown that man up in my face as a great person for the past two years..... So in my books the people who voted him into office are the only people who even might deserve anything.....

Edited September 9, 2005 by other one

[Guest yod]

Israel doesn't need America.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yod, we have several thousand of the people who have been displaced around now, and I can tell you that none that I have met or seen deserve what happened there.

I certainly don't deserve it either..... I didn't even vote for Mr. Bush, and he is the one that has pushed the Gaza removal more than any other American I know..... and you have thrown that man up in my face as a great person for the past two years..... So in my books the people who voted him into office are the only people who even might deserve anything.....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have edited my comments to avoid any harm it would do to someone who has been directly affected by Katrina.

I wasn't speaking of them though. I was speaking about us. As time goes by we will all see that this wasn't a localized catastrophe. Oh well...now I know how Noah must have felt

Just from the responses I've seen on this board to such an enormous warning, I have lost hope for America's recovery because this isn't the end of our problems. It's just another huge one piled on top. There are more coming which will make us nostalgic for something so small. I honestly think we are sunk. You should know, Sam, that is totally out of character for me to be so pessimistic about America.

But I won't lie to myself.

Bush is as good a politician as you will find in this country. I believe he's a decent man still.

But he doesn't have a clue about this either evidently....and I'm absolutely certain that Kerry would still have been much worse...and we will get exactly what we deserve in the next election.

I shudder to think about it.

It is a game of pick your poison, I guess

[Guest yod]

that's easy

Abortion is still legal.=Federal funding would be up and partial birth abortions raging

The country is totally divided. - I think it would have been much worse but that is a toss up.

Higher gas prices than ever...even before the hurricane.- Environmentalist whackos would be setting policy. There would be less refining

For the last 4 years those living below the poverty rate has increased while the middle class has decreased.- the middle class would be mostly gone

Bush started with a huge surplus and now we have a record deficit.- . We were in a recession that was hidden by "cooked books" but that is beside your point. The answer is that we would be just as broke but more taxes is the only answer to Democrats

Our states are strained by the illegal immigrants that are crossing the border.- Kerry would have formed a new beaurocrasy after years of some kind of blue ribbon panel...and studied by some committee...and a huge increase in taxes. MORE immigrants would be coming because he would also increase their entitlement benefits.

Public confidence in the President's ability to do his job is well below 50% due to his war, his policies on Israel and the hurricane showing just how insecure the homeland actually is.- Confidence in Kerry was below that from the start

Record numbers of people have lost their jobs to outsourcing and the admin says outsourcing is good. - Higher numbers of people would be losing jobs because businesses would be shutting down or moving offshore.

Gays have made greater strides in their agenda in the last 4 years than ever before.- gay marriage would be the law

China is buying out our country and could bankrupt us tomorrow if they chose.- they bought it under Clinton already. They would have Kerry in their back pocket

Our government has alienated our allies, including Canadians and Israeli's= a draw...but the French and Iranians would like us more if we could be manipulated. Maybe you have a point?

Bin Laden is still loose....Remember "Dead or Alive."- bin laden would still be running afghanistan...with Saddam would still be murdering his own people by the hundreds of thousands

I am being as honest with you as I can be. Bush may be failing us now over Israel but Kerry would have been a disaster from the beginning

[dgolvach]

What about the Jews in Israel that supported this thing? When do they get their Katrina? My point being is that Katrina was just a bad storm. I didn't support the pull out either but it had nothing to do with Katrina. The Jews were forced to give up their homes. The Big Easiers were forced to give up their lives in many cases. Israel will survive and N.O. will be rebuilt and we are still allies. There are millions upon millioms of Christians in the U.S. that have a special heart for Israel and God is well aware of that. There is quite a bit of shanagans going on from the secular liberal crowd in this country that worries me. Yod layed some of them out. The liberals don't seem to be big supporters of the state of Israel which leads to this question. Why are there so many liberal Jews. It makes no sence. Gaza is in the hands of the Islamonuts now. Why not build a tall fence around it?

Dan

[nebula]

Higher gas prices than ever...even before the hurricane.- Environmentalist whackos would be setting policy. There would be less refining

Environmentalists might have taken a better look at those levies and the shores of Louisiana.