God and Evil?

[branchesofHim]

God is good. God is love. God is light. God is God and there is none other. Everyone agree?

Since all of the above is true according to scripture, why does Isaiah's record of God seem to be at variance? Or is it? What do you think?

Isaiah 45:[5] I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
[6] That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
[8] Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
[9] Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
[10] Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?
[11] Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
[12] I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

The biblical record clearly states that God creaed the heaven and the earth. And it tells us that the earth was without form, void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

Genesis 1:[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Darkness was there upon the face of the deep in verse 2. Since God created the heaven and the earth, did He not also create darkness?

Did not Paul quote Isaiah in his letter to the Romans?

Romans 9:[20] Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
[21] Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Please provide scripture to validate your opinion on this, not a commentary from someone else. Thank you. Shalom

[Who me]

7 hours ago, branchesofHim said:

why does Isaiah's record of God seem to be at variance? Or is it? What do you think?

God by his own declaration is the source of All goodness, there is nothing that is evil in God.

If that is true then it is our understanding of the passage that is wrong.

 

As always contex is key.

God is making a declaration of his greatness, bringing out all his titles and attributes to stress his majesty.

[MrBear]

“SOVEREIGN OVER CEREAL” YouTube 

The potter and clay and the word SOVEREIGNTY has been abused by Other denominations to take the blame off of mans choices and put the blame on God, this is a misuse by those following the TULIP doctrine to say It’s not mans fault for choosing to do evil and rather God created people to do evil

this is not scriptural God is love and doesn’t tempt with evil nor can he be tempted with evil

i always look at scripture given to us to mold us into something God can be happy with instead other denominations reverse it and say “ I’m going to MOLD SCRIPTURE to fit what makes me happy”

John Piper loves to misuse SOVEREIGNTY As you will see in that video, it doesn’t mean what people try to mold it to say 

Edited February 26, 2022 by MrBear

[Justin Adams]

..is anyone forgetting Gen 6?  

[branchesofHim]

2 hours ago, Who me said:

As always contex is key.

Context is key indeed.

2 Timothy 2:[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

James 5:[11] Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

[branchesofHim]

47 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

..is anyone forgetting Gen 6?

What specifically is to be remembered in relation to this post? 

[Justin Adams]

12 minutes ago, branchesofHim said:

What specifically is to be remembered in relation to this post? 

If you do not want to know, then perhaps you have been steered away from it all... 

[branchesofHim]

4 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

If you do not want to know, then perhaps you have been steered away from it all...

I know the answer. What is your point? That was the question.

Genesis 6:1[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3] And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
[5] And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
[6] And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

[Justin Adams]

2 minutes ago, branchesofHim said:

I know the answer. What is your point? That was the question.

The real proliferation of evil and the black arts is well camaflaged in the church and rarely even mentioned. Read some 2nd Temple era texts and see...

[branchesofHim]

8 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

The real proliferation of evil and the black arts is well camaflaged in the church and rarely even mentioned.

Ecclesiastes 1:[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Luke 17:[26] And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.