A Simple Question

[LadyGunivere]

lypse obviously you believe you were created by what monkeys evolving? BAM poof your there......I mean please explain to me what you believe?

[Anne]

You made the allegation against Jesus not I, hence the burden of proof is upon you!

However, once I am able to, which should be some time today, I'll happily post them here.

God Bless

Anne

[Anne]

Do you know I couldn't resist giving you one for now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Josephus

Enjoy!

God Bless

Anne

[lypse]

Do you know I couldn't resist giving you one for now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Josephus

Enjoy!

God Bless

Anne

I apologize, the burden of proof was on me.

However, your citation is deeply flawed. Josephus was born in 37AD (WELL after Jesus' alleged crucifixion), so he could hardly serve as an eyewitness to Jesus!! If anything, he had heard about Jesus from other Christians, therefore HEARSAY. I'm not sure if you were refering to the others, but I'll address them anyway. Pliny the Younger was born in 62AD, again, not an eyewitness and most likely received information about Jesus from Christians. Furthermore, his letters do not even mention Jesus!! Seutonious, Born 69AD, not an eyewitness. In his writings he mentioned a Chrestus, which was a common name in Rome (should also note that scholars don't tend to use this as a refernce for Jesus!). Tacitus, born 56AD, not an eyewitness, HEARSAY. Also note that he briefly wrote about Christ be put to death, but he never says Jesus. Note also that the article itself says:

Tacitus' description of Christianity is decidedly negative, as he calls it a "pernicious superstition" and "something raw and shameful," which makes it improbable that the text was interpolated by later Christians.

Going further in this article makes me wonder if you even read it, or just quickly googled it and used it as a source. If anything it's a good source for my position!!

Funny how the Jewish records have no mention of Jesus either.

I think you've all but helped my case. There are other sites that show that Jesus did not exists, but this one serves useful so I'll use it as MY source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Josephus

Good day

[LadyGunivere]

You still never answered my question as to what is your beliefs? Your quick to judge ours but what is yours?

[lypse]

My beliefs. Well for one, I don't believe in God or Gods because I find the concept of an Omnimax Deity impossible. I don't believe in a personal creator. I believe that there could have been a force that caused the universe, but didn't play a part in the creation of planets, stars or any kind of life.

I do not believe in an afterlife. I believe that once you die..you die. Your body gets decomposed and becomes part of the earth. Is that clear??

This is something that has bothered me for awhile. Your brain stores your memories, and when you die, your brain goes with your body. So when you are in heaven, will you have all your memories with you

[Anne]

I quoted the souce that i did, to show there were others in that time period who spoke of him, since you will not accept the writers of the Bible as "Best/Original Evidence".

I have read it yes, my point was simply to give a source outside of the Bible that mentioned a man called Jesus lived,

I hope you find your way back to Jesus

God Bless you

Anne

[lypse]

I quoted the souce that i did, to show there were others in that time period who spoke of him, since you will not accept the writers of the Bible as "Best/Original Evidence".

I have read it yes, my point was simply to give a source outside of the Bible that mentioned a man called Jesus lived,

I hope you find your way back to Jesus

God Bless you

Anne

Your source is from people who never met Jesus and could have only gotten their "knowledge" of Jesus through HEARSAY. All of them were born AFTER his crucifixion, how could they be reliable?

I hope you find your way back to the Truth

good day

[Floatingaxe]

My beliefs. Well for one, I don't believe in God or Gods because I find the concept of an Omnimax Deity impossible. I don't believe in a personal creator. I believe that there could have been a force that caused the universe, but didn't play a part in the creation of planets, stars or any kind of life.

I do not believe in an afterlife. I believe that once you die..you die. Your body gets decomposed and becomes part of the earth. Is that clear??

This is something that has bothered me for awhile. Your brain stores your memories, and when you die, your brain goes with your body. So when you are in heaven, will you have all your memories with you

Strange! You say there is no afterlife, but then you say your memories go with you to where? Heaven? How is that?

[lypse]

no, I was asking the theists if the believe in an afterlife what happens to their memories....I dont believe in an afterlife, sorry for the confusion

Ill ask again:

To those that believe in an afterlife, what happens to your memories when you die??