The Gog/Magog War Ezekiel 38-39

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The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 1

March 25, 2022

Bible Prophecy, End Times, Ezekiel 38-39

The Battle of Ezekiel 38-39…Part 1
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

What Time Is It?

First of all, lets’ get some kind of time frame started. Falling between Israel’s modern re-birth, prophesied in Ezekiel 36-37, and the Millennium to which Ezekiel devotes chapters 40-48, means that the battle of chapters 38-39 has to take place after 1948 but before the 2nd coming, and all agree it hasn’t happened yet. This has led some to see the passage as a description of Armageddon, but as we’ll see there are many prominent nations missing from this battle whereas Zechariah 14:2 prophecies that every nation will join the battle on that day. If so, the time frame narrows to sometime between 1948 and the beginning of the Great Tribulation, when no place in the world will be at peace, especially Israel.

Ezekiel prophesied that the Lord would use this battle to turn Israel back to Him and to complete the return of Jews from all over the world to Israel, not leaving any behind. This leads us to believe that the battle of Ezekiel 38-39 is the event that re-starts the clock on the 490-year period of time spoken of by Daniel, the famous 70 weeks of Daniel 9. 69 of those weeks (483 years) had come when the Messiah was crucified and the Temple destroyed, stopping the clock one week (seven years) short of fulfillment. I believe the dramatic victory the Lord wins over Israel’s enemies in this battle convinces them to officially re-instate their Old Covenant relationship and demand a Temple for worship. It’s this Temple that’s later desecrated by the antichrist, kicking off the Great Tribulation.

With all this in mind, let’s begin a careful study of Ezekiel 38-39, to prepare us for these events should they become reality soon.

The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army-your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops-the many nations with you.” (Ezek. 38:1-6)

In a recent article, Finding Gog , I made the claim that Gog is a supernatural figure (perhaps Satan’s counterpart to the Archangel Michael) and the behind the scenes commander of this event, while Magog is listed in Genesis 10 as one of Noah’s grandsons, a son of Japeth. Over 130 historical references demonstrate that Magog is the father of today’s Russian people. (For a more detailed treatment on the modern names of all the nations mentioned in this passage, read the related article I’ve included below.)

In our Mid East Prophecy Update I also explained that the “hooks in the jaw” phrase indicates Russia’s reluctance to participate, and that the treaty Russia has with the Central Asian Republics may be invoked to assure that God’s will is done and Russia is involved. Persia is the ancient name for Iran, Cush and Put represent the North African nations, Gomer was Magog’s brother and settled along the Danube River in what would become Eastern Europe, and Togarmah, a son of Gomer’s, inhabited what’s now known as Armenia and Turkey. The characteristic all these nations have in common is their religion, they’re all Moslem.

“Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.” (Ezek. 38:7-9)

The fact that Israel is the target in this passage is self evident, but a controversy rages around the Heberew word betach translated “in safety” in verse 8. A secondary meaning, “carelessly” could mean that they’re not really safe but just think they are and so their guard is down. It would take a truly miraculous change in Israel’s current situation to achieve either of the conditions this word implies.

Next time we’ll look at the nations that are not involved in this battle and you’ll see why it can’t be referring to Armageddon. We’ll also see how the Lord chooses to reveal Himself to the nations. See you then.

 

 

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The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 2

March 25, 2022

Bible Prophecy, End Times, Ezekiel 38-39

The Battle of Ezekiel 38-39…Part 2
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

Achieving even a perceived state of peace in the Middle East seems to be the last remaining precondition to fulfilling Ezekiel 38-39 and so Egypt’s peace initiative bears close watching. To help gain the prophetic perspective, we began a review of those two chapters last week. Here’s part 2.

“‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people-all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.” Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”‘ (Ezek. 38:10-13)

Israel is described here as a country at peace in the idiom of Ezekiel’s day, a land of unwalled villages, when this enemy coalition attacks, and other countries not mentioned before take notice. Sheba and Dedan are first mentioned as grandsons of Cush in Genesis 10:7. Later, in Genesis 25:3, we read of grandsons of Abraham named Sheba and Dedan as well, born to Jokshan, a son of Abraham and his 2nd wife, Keturah. From the passage it’s not clear which pair of grandsons is being referenced, but commentaries none-the-less identify these two as representing the nations of the Arabian Peninsula, notably Saudi Arabia. According to archaeologists W. F. Albright and Wendell Phillips, Sheba was on the southwestern edge of the Arabian Peninsula across the Red Sea from present-day Ethiopia. Sheba is known in history as Saba in Southern Arabia, the Sabaeans of classical geography, who carried on the trade in spices with the other peoples of the ancient world. Dedan was probably the habitat of the Arabs in the northern part of the Arabian Desert, which is modern-day Saudi Arabia. The ancient capital of Saudi Arabia is still called Dedan on many maps today.

Tarshish was a son of Javan, who settled the area of Southern Greece. Some see his name as a reference to ancient Tartessus, a seaport in southern Spain, near Gibraltar. Others recall the sea going navies of the Phoenicians who sailed “the Ships of Tarshish” out of nearby Cadiz as far north as England for tin, a metal used in the making of bronze and other alloys, which they mined in Cornwall. Some believe that the name Britannia is actually derived from a Phoenician word meaning “source of tin.” If so, since the ships of Tarshish brought tin to the ancient world, this reference could be to Great Britain making the “lions” (KJV) or “villages”(NIV) of Tarshish Great Britain’s colonies, of which the US is the most prominent today. The fact that the Lion is a symbol of the British Empire lends support to this view.

All that being said, the most provocative point here is that the very coalition of western nations that freed Kuwait and deposed Saddam Hussein are not engaged here, but instead question the invaders’ intentions from the sidelines. This is the main reason I don’t believe this battle is the Armageddon of Revelation fame. There are too many countries that aren’t involved, when according to Zechariah 14:2 all the nations of the world will be gathered for the final battle.

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.” (Ezek. 38:14-16)

Here the Lord makes His intent unmistakably clear. He’s orchestrating this event to reveal Himself to the world once again. The years and years of debate over God’s existence, begun with the German School of Higher Criticism in the 1800’s and continued in the modern rationalism of the 1950’s will be put to naught as God uses this battle to poke His head through the fabric of the sky and shout, “I’m still here!”

“‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD . Every man’s sword will be against his brother. I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'” (Ezek. 38:17-23)

With signs reminiscent of all the Heaven fought wars of the past, the Lord is aroused in anger to execute judgment against the invaders of His land and enemies of His people. And as He has done before, He sews confusion in the hearts of Israel’s enemies so that they commence attacking themselves while He unleashes the classic tools of divine intervention. Earthquakes, plagues, bloodshed, rain, hailstones, and burning sulfur; these are His signature signs. Neither Israel, nor the enemy coalition, nor those watching from afar will fail to interpret them correctly.

So ends chapter 38. Next time we’ll see why some think this battle goes nuclear and get another good reason why it’s not the last battle of the Age of Man. See you then.

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The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 3

March 25, 2022

Bible Prophecy, End Times, Ezekiel 38-39

The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 3
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

In October of 2004 Iran completed two big steps in its ongoing pursuit of nuclear weaponry. First was the successful test of a missile with a 1250-mile (2000km) range, capable of hitting all parts of Israel, all US military installations in the Middle East, and every European capitol with nuclear warheads. Second was the conversion of “a few tons” of raw uranium into fuel to power the centrifuges used in the production of weapons grade uranium. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei told Iran’s nuclear scientists this week that unless they produce four bombs by January of 2005 they “aren’t Moslems.” In the same week, Russia repeated its pledge to continue assisting Iran in developing its nuclear capability. Against that backdrop, here’s part 3 of our series on Ezekiel 38-39.

“Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD.

“‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.” (Ezek. 39:1-8)

The King James has the more accurate rendering for the beginning of this passage. The phrase translated I will turn you around and drag you along in the NIV and others, literally reads I will turn you around and leave but the sixth part of you which means that 5/6ths of the Moslem forces will be destroyed. The Hebrew concept is roughly equivalent to the one behind the English word “decimate.” Although decimate originally described the punishment requiring that 1 in 10 soldiers in a mutinous Roman Legion be executed, figuratively it has come to mean that something is all but totally destroyed. Synonyms are “annihilate” or “wipe out.” So it is with the Hebrew. When the Lord brings this Moslem coalition into the mountains of Israel, He will also wipe them out.

Some interpret the idea of sending fire on Magog and those who live safely in the coastlands as warning of a nuclear exchange. Magog refers to Russia of course, but the identity of the coastlands is less clear. The Hebrew word implies that they’re a distant land, and in Isaiah the phrase “beyond the sea” is used to help locate them, the sea being the Mediterranean. This reference could easily be pointing to Europe, and some even believe the US is in focus here. The fact that the US now has a substantial military presence within range of Iran’s new missiles lends credibility to this view.

Also the Hebrew word translated in safety is the same one that’s used to describe Israel’s state of mind in Ezek. 38:8. Again it denotes a sense of carelessness, as if the people being mentioned don’t believe this kind of thing could happen to them and therefore aren’t prepared for what’s coming.

And once more the Lord explains His real purpose. He’s going to use this battle to announce to one and all that He’s Israel’s Protector and Champion. The nations of the world are being told that to get to Israel, they’ll have to go through Him.

“‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up-the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign LORD.” (Ezek 39:9-10)

In Ezekiel’s day people burned wood for heat and so that’s the idiom he used to describe the situation. In fact, the passage indicates that all of Israel’s energy needs for 7 years will be met by converting the energy from the weapons the enemy leaves behind to peaceful use. I can’t imagine the enemy carrying in enough wood to supply Israel’s power and heating plants for 7 years, so a more modern application is in order. Let’s say nuclear. The old Soviet Union converted submarine reactors into electric power plants so the notion isn’t that far fetched. And as you’ll see, the clean-up procedures for this battle are remarkably similar to today’s nuclear decontamination process. Why only 7 years then, when a nuclear reactor could theoretically supply energy needs for much longer? If, as I believe, this battle will introduce the 70th week of Daniel, 7 years worth of energy is all they’ll need. After that, the Lord will supply their heat and light.

“‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east toward the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.”

“‘For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them in order to cleanse the land. All the people of the land will bury them, and the day I am glorified will be a memorable day for them, declares the Sovereign LORD.”

“‘Men will be regularly employed to cleanse the land. Some will go throughout the land and, in addition to them, others will bury those that remain on the ground. At the end of the seven months they will begin their search. As they go through the land and one of them sees a human bone, he will set up a marker beside it until the gravediggers have buried it in the Valley of Hamon Gog. (Also a town called Hamonah will be there.) And so they will cleanse the land'” (Ezek 39:11-16)

If this valley is east of the Dead Sea, as the King James translation implies, it would be in Jordan, not Israel, and even in Ezekiel’s day would have been outside Israel’s borders. Yet verse 11 clearly locates the burial place in Israel. Therefore I believe it’s more likely the one traditionally called the Valley of the Shadow of Death (Psalm 23:4) that was part of Israel during Ezekiel’s time. If so, it’s at the bottom of the old Jericho Road that still connects Jerusalem with Jericho and is on the way to the Dead Sea. And remarkably, it’s in territory occupied by the Palestinians today. Does this battle effectively wipe out any Palestinian claims to Biblical land?

It will require the combined efforts of all Israeli citizens for 7 months to bury the enemy dead. After that they’ll hire professionals, some to decontaminate the land and some to search for any bodies the people may have missed. They won’t touch any bones they find, but will set up markers and call the professionals to come take them away. This approach fits modern Nuclear Biological Chemical Warfare decontamination procedures to a tee. Did the Lord have Ezekiel write this to show us the type of weaponry being used? Between this and the energy reference above, it sure looks that way.

“Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: ‘Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls-all of them fattened animals from Bashan. At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign LORD.” (Ezek. 39:17-20)

The carrion birds and scavengers will have a field day due to the carnage left behind on the battlefield. Earlier the enemy force was described as being a great horde, like a cloud covering the land. Now that it’s been decimated there are dead bodies everywhere. This is not unique in Israel’s history. Josephus wrote that after the Battle of the Galilee in 68 AD there were so many dead bodies floating in the Sea that you couldn’t see the water.

“I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them. From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them. “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.” (Ezek 39:21-29)

Following this victory the Lord will complete the return of His people Israel to their land, begun in the early 1900’s. Though He caused them to be scattered all over the world, He’ll now bring them back, not leaving any behind. Since about 55% of the world’s Jewish people currently live outside of Israel this will be some homecoming. But having witnessed His defeat of their enemies, Jews from all over the world will flock to Israel and to Him, yearning for a reinstatement of their Old Covenant relationship. And after waiting for nearly 2000 years for them to return, He certainly won’t refuse them now.

For their part they’ll soon build a Temple, Old Covenant worship being impossible without one. Following the instructions from Ezekiel 40-48 they’ll build the Temple in Shiloh, about 12 miles (20km) north of Jerusalem. This is the Temple that’s made desolate by the antichrist and later cleansed at the beginning of the Millennium, just as the second Temple was first made desolate and then cleansed in the time of the Maccabees. (See my study on The Coming Temple for all the details.)

And so this battle will mark the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week, the last 7 years of human history. Having given this prophecy to Israel, Ezekiel doesn’t get into any detail on its aftermath, especially as is relates to the world’s subsequent reactions. But for we who are the Church today, the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 carries more significance in what Ezekiel didn’t say than in what he did. And that’s the topic of our concluding episode, next time. See you then.

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The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 4, Conclusion

• March 25, 2022
• Bible Prophecy, End Times, Ezekiel 38-39

The Gog/Magog War – Ezekiel 38-39 – Part 4, Conclusion
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

From our study of Ezekiel 38-39 you can see that there is really only one major preceding condition left before this prophecy can be fulfilled, and that’s for Israel to be living in an assumed state of peace with its neighbors. So when will that happen?

In the fifty plus years of Israel’s modern existence, there really hasn’t been a day when this condition has been met, although enemy sneak attacks in 1967 and especially 1973 did take the country by surprise as to timing. The simultaneous invasion by Egypt and Syria on Yom Kippur 1973 brought Israel perilously close to defeat. Historians report that due to “a rare moment of flabbiness in Israeli intelligence and in the government, Israel did not expect any attacks from its neighbors just at this point in time.” (Both the Jewish Yom Kippur and Moslem Ramadan forbid waging war during their observance, and in October 1973 as the attack began these Holy Days overlapped.)

It took a week for Israel’s forces to recover and go on the offense. Two weeks after that the war was over, cease-fire arrangements having been negotiated by the UN. In the ensuing agreements Egypt regained control of the Suez Canal and the Sinai Peninsula lost in 1967 and Syria got back a small portion of the Golan Heights, although had the UN not stepped in, Israeli forces would have soon entered both Cairo and Damascus.

Those Who Don’t Learn From History…

Not since then has there been such a relaxed state of preparedness by Israel and indeed it’s hard to see how one could happen in the future. In fact the Bible mentions only two possibilities for a time of peace in the End Times, and neither fits the bill. The first occurs at the outset of Daniel’s seventieth week when the antichrist makes his initial appearance. By means of peace he will deceive many, Daniel 8:25 (KJV) tells us.

The other time is the 1000 years of peace known as the Millennium or Kingdom Age. Let’s rule that one out right away. First of all it’s an unparalleled time of peace personally administered by the Prince of Peace. No enemy of Israel’s will dare attempt a sneak attack until right at the end when Satan is freed from his 1000 years of captivity to lead them. And second, the end time prophecies in Ezekiel are sequential, first the latter days re-gathering of the Jews to Israel in chapters 36-37, then this battle, then from chapter 40 on it’s the Millennium. The Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 has to follow the modern re-gathering but precede the Millennium. It can’t happen at the Millennium’s end.

So let’s go back to the first possibility, the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week. Daniel 9:27 reveals that as one of his first official acts, the antichrist will enforce a seven-year covenant with Israel that includes permission to build a Temple. (This seven year period is called Daniel’s 70th week.) But because of the controversy it would stir up, most Jews today don’t want a Temple and won’t want one till the Creator of the Universe dramatically reveals Himself to them. He does so in the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39, and after that they’ll be clamoring for a Temple, regardless of the consequences. Old Covenant observance requires it. So it appears this battle has to precede Daniel’s 70th week, too early for the antichrist’s false peace.

Also, the fact that the antichrist emerges as a peacemaker implies that some parts of the world will have recently been at war. Perhaps even a war involving a nuclear exchange, which will have left the world in shock, desperate for a plan that would prevent that ever happening again. Satan’s “man of peace” with his seven year covenant will have just the thing to put the world at ease and allow him to begin his meteoric rise to world dominance.

Have You Reached A Verdict?

As we see, circumstantial evidence weighs heavily in favor of the antichrist revealing himself on the heels of the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 to kick off Daniel’s 70th week. And so neither of the Bible’s identified possibilities for peace will take place in time for this battle. That means that some dramatic chain of events, similar to those that led to the “sudden” fall of the Soviet Union, will have to occur soon to place Israel in the vulnerable state necessary for Ezekiel’s prophecy to be fulfilled.

As you read this, Russia and Iran are completing their agreement to bring Iran’s first nuclear reactor on line, while Israel trains in the use of new “bunker-buster” ordinance recently purchased from the US specifically for the purpose of destroying it. Iran is said to be leaking false information exaggerating the time required to “go critical” while secretly preparing a pre-emptive strike on Israel to prevent such an attack. Also the EU and Iran are negotiating an understanding that would permit resumed trading between the two in exchange for Iran’s pledge that its nuclear intent is purely peaceful. How this will all shake out is anybody’s guess, but it’s sure to be a dramatic chain of events.

So What’s The Point?

Now why is all this so important to us? Well, we’ve already made a case for the antichrist to appear right after this battle and we know from the passage itself that the Lord uses it to reveal Himself to Israel and draw them back to Him. But here are two more good reasons. First, you’ll recall from our study in 2nd Thessalonians that the church has to disappear before the antichrist can be revealed. (2 Thes. 2:7) And second, in the past when the Lord’s focus was on Israel there was no church, and while it’s been on the church there has been no Israel. These two entities seem to be mutually exclusive in the Lord’s workings, so if He’s going to focus on Israel again the Church has to disappear (Acts 15:14-18).

So if the Church has to disappear before the antichrist can be revealed and if the church has to disappear when the Lord turns again to Israel, and if both these are outcomes of the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39, you can see why it’s so important to us. By the way, none of this is meant to modify or refute the Doctrine of Imminence, which holds that the Lord could come at any time. In fact rather than saying that Ezekiel’s battle has to happen before the Rapture, I’m saying that it looks more like the Rapture has to happen before Ezekiel’s battle.

In conclusion then, there are compelling reasons to put the prophecy of Ezekiel 38-39 on your urgent watch list. Based on the current state of world affairs, it could be fulfilled in the very near future, and since the Church must disappear as this battle looms, the Rapture must be right over the horizon. Maranatha. If you listen closely, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah.

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I see you added more since I read Part I. I'll post what I wrote anyway, Angles.

I could not agree more with Mr. Kelley; that is my hermeneutics. I am looking forward to Part II, and I do not want to hijack your thread, just participate. If I may make a couple of supplements to his teaching thus far that he has not mentioned yet?

against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Gog must be a title like a prince, king, leader, general, or spiritual being, and I prefer the latter. I have read several sources that say Putin is not himself, and he has dramatically changed; he has become mentally unstable. Just a thought about Gog, could this Gog be indwelling someone?

My studies have two Gog wars in the Bible, separated by about 1,000 years. The first is to take plunder, a spoil from Israel, and it is not the whole world. The second is the entire world, not to take a spoil, but to overthrow the reign and rule of Jesus.

What is the commodity now being fought over, threatened, cut off, bargained over, makes the world go around, in shortage, that some economies are dependent on? That is skyrocketing and reserves opening that Israel now has an abundance of, piping and selling?

The characteristic all these nations have in common is their religion, they’re all Moslem.

Few realize that 40% of Russia’s military conscripts are also Muslim. The Lord alone will defeat them, and the world will know it was the Lord who saved Israel. But wouldn’t it be ironic as described in the Bible. Would it be a stretch to think part of their downfall is Muslim sects (Shia-Sunni) turning against and killing each other?

were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate.

We are all aware of the super prophecy occurring in our generation, Israel becoming a nation once again in ONE DAY as prophesized. Few pay attention to another significant prophecy that happened in 1967. From 1948-to 1967, Israel did not possess or control the mountains of Israel or Jerusalem. They were retaken and annexed in the Israeli Six-Day war of 1967.

The preceding and entire topic beg the question. Where are the ancient bordering nations that hate Israel and want nothing more than to drive her into the Sea and erase her from history? Active in 1948, 1967, and 1973 wars along with the proxies and terrorist organizations? Where are they at in this invasion?

There is a convergence of everything Gog-Magog connected right now, not to mention all biblical prophecy for our time.

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3 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I see you added more since I read Part I. I'll post what I wrote anyway, Angles.

I could not agree more with Mr. Kelley; that is my hermeneutics. I am looking forward to Part II, and I do not want to hijack your thread, just participate. If I may make a couple of supplements to his teaching thus far that he has not mentioned yet?

against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Gog must be a title like a prince, king, leader, general, or spiritual being, and I prefer the latter. I have read several sources that say Putin is not himself, and he has dramatically changed; he has become mentally unstable. Just a thought about Gog, could this Gog be indwelling someone?

My studies have two Gog wars in the Bible, separated by about 1,000 years. The first is to take plunder, a spoil from Israel, and it is not the whole world. The second is the entire world, not to take a spoil, but to overthrow the reign and rule of Jesus.

What is the commodity now being fought over, threatened, cut off, bargained over, makes the world go around, in shortage, that some economies are dependent on? That is skyrocketing and reserves opening that Israel now has an abundance of, piping and selling?

The characteristic all these nations have in common is their religion, they’re all Moslem.

Few realize that 40% of Russia’s military conscripts are also Muslim. The Lord alone will defeat them, and the world will know it was the Lord who saved Israel. But wouldn’t it be ironic as described in the Bible. Would it be a stretch to think part of their downfall is Muslim sects (Shia-Sunni) turning against and killing each other?

were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate.

We are all aware of the super prophecy occurring in our generation, Israel becoming a nation once again in ONE DAY as prophesized. Few pay attention to another significant prophecy that happened in 1967. From 1948-to 1967, Israel did not possess or control the mountains of Israel or Jerusalem. They were retaken and annexed in the Israeli Six-Day war of 1967.

The preceding and entire topic beg the question. Where are the ancient bordering nations that hate Israel and want nothing more than to drive her into the Sea and erase her from history? Active in 1948, 1967, and 1973 wars along with the proxies and terrorist organizations? Where are they at in this invasion?

There is a convergence of everything Gog-Magog connected right now, not to mention all biblical prophecy for our time.

Thanks for your reply Dennis

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I have read several sources that say Putin is not himself, and he has dramatically changed; he has become mentally unstable. Just a thought about Gog, could this Gog be indwelling someone?

Could it be that God is using him to fulfill His plan and God is changing him to act upon it to prepare the Ezekiel war?

[George]

I would suggest watching this video that I did ...

https://rumble.com/vxf4mh-purim-gog-and-magog-where-are-we-prophetically.html

God bless,

George

[angels4u]

2 minutes ago, George said:

I would suggest watching this video that I did ...

https://rumble.com/vxf4mh-purim-gog-and-magog-where-are-we-prophetically.html

God bless,

George

Thank you, George,we're living in interesting days

 I didn't know you have a rumble account?

[Dennis1209]

1 minute ago, angels4u said:

Thanks for your reply Dennis

Could it be that God is using him to fulfill His plan and God is changing him to act upon it to prepare the Ezekiel war?

I am just halfway into Part II and the author is taking my intellectual property right out of my head. I have that copyright; it is not fair. 

Think of the implications if Tarshish is Britain, which I lean towards. The young lions (Canada, Australia, America). Are we seeing America on the sidelines right now, pulling out of the middle east? An antisemitic administration that no longer supports Israel? 

[angels4u]

2 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I am just halfway into Part II and the author is taking my intellectual property right out of my head. I have that copyright; it is not fair. 

Think of the implications if Tarshish is Britain, which I lean towards. The young lions (Canada, Australia, America). Are we seeing America on the sidelines right now, pulling out of the middle east? An antisemitic administration that no longer supports Israel? 

I don't think Israel is  having much support as it is...