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[George]

Just now, truth7t7 said:

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Actually ... it's not even the same size ... the Ezekiel Temple is miles upon miles.  Just a snippet of one of the courtyards from Matthew Henry's commentary ...

The lands here allotted to the sanctuary were 25,000 reeds (so our translation makes it, though some make them only cubits) in length, and 10,000 in breadth-about eighty miles one way and thirty miles another way (say some); twenty-five miles one way and ten miles the other way, so others.

[truth7t7]

6 minutes ago, George said:

So the dimensions of the Temple in Ezekiel are considerably smaller than the New Jerusalem ... and there is NO Temple in the New Jerusalem ... what do you do with verse 9 of Zechariah 14?

Zec 14:9  And the LORD will be king over all the earth. On that day the LORD will be one and his name one. 

The Lord will be King Over The "New Earth" and Living Waters will flow from his throne in "New Jerusalem"

Don't forget George, "Living Waters" or the "River Of Life" only flows in the "Eternal Kingdom"

The River Of Life

Zechariah 14:8KJV

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

Revelation 22:1KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

[George]

4 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Zechariah 14:8KJV

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

Eze 47:8  And he said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, and enters the sea; when the water flows into the sea, the water will become fresh. 

Eze 47:9  And wherever the river goes, every living creature that swarms will live, and there will be very many fish. For this water goes there, that the waters of the sea may become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes. 

Eze 47:10  Fishermen will stand beside the sea. From Engedi to Eneglaim it will be a place for the spreading of nets. Its fish will be of very many kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea.

This speaks of fisherman by the Dead Sea!

[truth7t7]

7 minutes ago, George said:

Actually ... it's not even the same size ... the Ezekiel Temple is miles upon miles.  Just a snippet of one of the courtyards from Matthew Henry's commentary ...

The lands here allotted to the sanctuary were 25,000 reeds (so our translation makes it, though some make them only cubits) in length, and 10,000 in breadth-about eighty miles one way and thirty miles another way (say some); twenty-five miles one way and ten miles the other way, so others.

George the temple seen has animal sacrifice for sin, instructed by God

The temple seen is that of Zerubbabels 2nd temple, no "Future" animal sacrifice for sin will be instructed by God, the Lamb of God has shed his blood on Calvary, and has abolished blood sacrifice for sin

Ezekiel 43:19-21KJV

 

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

[truth7t7]

Just now, George said:

Eze 47:8  And he said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, and enters the sea; when the water flows into the sea, the water will become fresh. 

Eze 47:9  And wherever the river goes, every living creature that swarms will live, and there will be very many fish. For this water goes there, that the waters of the sea may become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes. 

Eze 47:10  Fishermen will stand beside the sea. From Engedi to Eneglaim it will be a place for the spreading of nets. Its fish will be of very many kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea.

This speaks of fisherman by the Dead Sea!

We Disagree, It speaks of nets and fishermen in the New Heaven and Earth

[truth7t7]

24 minutes ago, George said:

So you don't believe it's taken place ... but it will take place?  Has Revelation 13 taken place?  

I believe Revelation 13 is future and literal

I believe the future "Beast" will be a human man and a king/ruler of Jewish/Hebrew decent, and he will be revealed in Jerusalem as Messiah to the Jews,and Jesus returned to earth to start a Millennial Kingdom "The Stong Delusion",this will start the 3.5 year great tribulation

Edited April 20, 2022 by truth7t7

[George]

9 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

We Disagree, It speaks of nets and fishermen in the New Heaven and Earth

So is there an Ein Gedi in the New Jerusalem?  Another scripture to validate this?

[George]

5 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

I believe Revelation 13 is future and literal

I believe the future "Beast" will be a king/ruler of Jewish/Hebrew decent, and he will be revealed in Jerusalem as Messiah to the Jews,and Jesus returned to earth to start a Millennial Kingdom "The Stong Delusion",this will start the 3.5 year great tribulation

Ok ... so how do you jump to Rev 13 as future and literal .. and Rev 20 as spiritual and current?

[truth7t7]

2 minutes ago, George said:

So is there an Ein Gedi in the New Jerusalem?  Another scripture to validate this?

The Ein Gedi is a natural oasis on this earth, and has absolutely nothing to do with the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

[George]

1 minute ago, truth7t7 said:

The Ein Gedi is a natural oasis on this earth, and has absolutely nothing to do with the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

Eze 47:9  And wherever the river goes, every living creature that swarms will live, and there will be very many fish. For this water goes there, that the waters of the sea may become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes. 

Eze 47:10  Fishermen will stand beside the sea. From Engedi to Eneglaim it will be a place for the spreading of nets. Its fish will be of very many kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea. 

So this isn't the New Jerusalem?  So this is an earthly place?