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1 hour ago, George said:

The voice was recognizable...he knew it as soon as the 3 men appeared to him.  He had heard it in Mesopotamia, in Haran, and again in Israel.  :)

This is good for anyone who wants to think that way. 

It's not without margin of error. 


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1 hour ago, angels4u said:


George,the Bible doesn't mention of angel of the Lord anymore after Jesus birth and resurrection.

As far as I know it's often or always Jesus in the form of an angel, the angel of the LORD was a temporary manifestation of the LORD Jesus Christ in a preincarnate form.

 

Who is teaching this. 


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43 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

The Bible doesn't tell us who the Angel of the Lord is but it does give us clues.

(Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8)

It is Christ.

13 To which of the angels did God ever say,

“Sit at my right hand
    until I make your enemies
    a footstool for your feet”?

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

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49 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

The Bible doesn't tell us who the Angel of the Lord is but it does give us clues.

(Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8)

It is Christ.

Acts 12:11

11 And when Peter was come to himself, he said, Now I know of a surety, that the Lord hath sent his angel, and hath delivered me out of the hand of Herod, and from all the expectation of the people of the Jews.

Amen 

No clue needed for this event with Peter. 

In lines 2,3,4 Peter said: Now I know of a surety, that the Lord hath sent his angel. 

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1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

The Bible doesn't tell us who the Angel of the Lord is but it does give us clues.

(Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8)

It is Christ.

Then the Angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time out of heaven, and said: "By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son — "blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."

 

@missmuffet Hi there.  The Bible does tell us Who the Angel of the LORD is right there in the sixteenth verse.  

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This is good for anyone who wants to think that way. 

It's not without margin of error. 

And Stephen said: “Brothers and fathers, hear me. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran, and said to him, ‘Go out from your land and from your kindred and go into the land that I will show you.’
Acts 7:2‭-‬3 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/act.7.2-3.ESV

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2 hours ago, angels4u said:

As far as I know it's often or always Jesus in the form of an angel, the angel of the LORD was a temporary manifestation of the LORD Jesus Christ in a preincarnate form.

Not necessarily...Gabriel appeared to Daniel.

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2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Why the red lettering? Is it to emphasize the following. 

HI, Ycf.  I was replying to @missmuffet:)  She mentioned that the Bible never tells us who The Angel of the LORD is.  But, truly, in verse 16, the proof is revealed to us that it is God the Father who is The Angel of the LORD.  This is our Father’s oath to Himself, and it lays the foundation of the coming of His Son. 
 

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2 hours ago, angels4u said:


George,the Bible doesn't mention of angel of the Lord anymore after Jesus birth and resurrection.

As far as I know it's often or always Jesus in the form of an angel, the angel of the LORD was a temporary manifestation of the LORD Jesus Christ in a preincarnate form.

 

Right, we remember that the Word made flesh said (I paraphrase since I'm on my silly phone and don't know how to copy and paste from my bible app :red_smile:), When you see Me, you have seen the Father. 

We know what this means, with knowledge that the Word of God is the express image of our Father whom no man has seen at any time. No man has seen our Father, but His Son explains Him. 

Therefore, before the fullness of time had come when the Son of God was born to a woman under the Law --- He became the Son of Man, Emmanuel, God with us  --- He was with God, and is God. He was, and is, and is to come, the Almighty (from Revelation... relying on memory since for some reason, I can't have this browser open together with my bible app).

Hehe, silly phone. Oh well, it's what I use on the forum during slow times at work. 

So anyway, before He became the Son of Man, He was! The Son of God is God and He is eternal, so the Son of God appeared to men either in the likeness of man (more than once in the OT) or as the angel of YHWH. 

I agree! :)

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1 minute ago, Marathoner said:

So anyway, before He became the Son of Man, He was! The Son of God is God and He is eternal, so the Son of God appeared to men either in the likeness of man (more than once in the OT) or as the angel of YHWH. 

Yes!  The LORD (written in all caps) is YHWH.  90554292-E160-4313-B27F-E135E29AF94F.gif.94def25a782d8666318231ae3418b6d7.gif

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