How old is the earth biblically

[RV_Wizard]

I was raised as an Old Earth Creationist, but after reading the Bible I could find NO justification to claim the the earth was millions, much less billions, of years old.  Adam was created on the sixth day of creation.  Sin and death were brought into the world shortly thereafter by Adam and Even eating what was forbidden.  We don't know how long a period that was, but it was likely not very long.  Evolution has never occurred.  Speciation happens.  It results in a net loss of information, not in the advancement of a species including new characteristics previously not existing.

 

[RV_Wizard]

1 minute ago, Heaven_Bound said:

The Topic is Age of Earth according to the Bible.   Which includes the Scripture I am using from Mark 10:6 From the beginning of creation, God ‘made them male and female.   

Exodus 20:11 marks the case closed; carved in stone by God; not Moses. “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.” 

[one.opinion]

38 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

He makes it clear and there's only one way to read this! 

You know this isn't true, because there are millions of people that read it differently. I'm not unique in this regard.

39 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

But this is Christ equating Marriage of Male and Female and taking us all the way back to the Beginning of Creation.   He specifically uses [Beginning of Creation], not when Adam/Eve was Created but the Entire Creation.

I disagree. The comment only makes sense if it is using the existence of Adam and Eve as "the beginning". Marriage did not exist prior to Adam and Eve.

40 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

 For your theories to be compliant, you need Days 1 through 5 to be Metaphorical, not literal.

I'm in agreement here.

41 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

But even Mark 10 clarifies the Days of Creation should be accepted as Literal.

Again, that's your opinion. I believe I have shown how a reasonable, good-faith argument can be made for a different view.

What I've tried to emphasize a few times now is this - it is rather amazing how we can have very different views on the age of the earth, but very similar views on the important theological points of Genesis 1-2.

[one.opinion]

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Exodus 20:11 marks the case closed; carved in stone by God; not Moses. “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.” 

If the six days in Genesis were symbolic, then the Exodus 20 reference is likely also symbolic. Notice that in Exodus 23, the 6+1 symbolism is still present, but this time in years, rather than days.

[one.opinion]

21 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

How is it possible to read 6 From the beginning of creation... and think it means Not from the Beginning of Creation.

The topic at hand in Mark 10 was divorce. Jesus refers back to Adam and Eve which could very easily mean the creation of marriage. It is not as difficult as you assume to see something different when look at the Mark 10 passage verses the specific Mark 10:6 verse.

[teddyv]

29 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

But Christ purposefully begins with From the Beginning of Creation, that is before Marriage was instituted.

How is it possible to read From the Beginning of Creation and think this means anything else but the beginning of Creation?

From the "literal" beginning of creation (i.e. Day 1 separating light from dark) there were no people, so marriage is completely irrelevant for any days preceding the creation of humans.

[one.opinion]

30 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

How is it possible to read From the Beginning of Creation and think this means anything else but the beginning of Creation?

I'm not sure how many different ways I can write this.

You are assuming that Jesus is talking about the creation of the universe. I believe the context suggests that Jesus is talking about the creation of marriage.

[Dennis1209]

8 hours ago, Starise said:

The theory on earth magma has generally been that when a planet turns, internal friction results which keeps planet's insides constantly moving and churning. IOW gravity and those forces combined with planet spin. For this reason even exoplanets are said to have warmth in their interiors far away from the sun.

Then recently large water reserves of HUGE proportions were discovered under Asia. This is another ocean under the earth. It can't all be hot magma down there. I have always been amazed that 200ft down from the solid ground my house sits on I can draw water all day. Must be a large pond down there.....and I hope the ground I'm on is not too close to it. 

It is nice having quality well water. No boil orders, no chlorine, no monthly water, and sewer bill. That is, until last year I needed a new well pump, pressure tank, and complete septic drain field. My well is only 60' deep. 

[Dennis1209]

5 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

I was raised as an Old Earth Creationist, but after reading the Bible I could find NO justification to claim the the earth was millions, much less billions, of years old.  Adam was created on the sixth day of creation.  Sin and death were brought into the world shortly thereafter by Adam and Even eating what was forbidden.  We don't know how long a period that was, but it was likely not very long.  Evolution has never occurred.  Speciation happens.  It results in a net loss of information, not in the advancement of a species including new characteristics previously not existing.

 

I was raised just the opposite and held firm to the earth now being about 6,000 years old. As I mentioned previously, I see the possibility of earth being created before the six-day creation week. One thing I can say with certainty is that the earth was created in the beginning. 

Likewise, Satan was also in the Garden and he sinned first (pride) before tempting Eve. We are not told when Satan fell, it is possible he may have rebelled before creation? I do think one reason Satan and his minions hate humanity so much is we were created in the image of God. 

[one.opinion]

2 hours ago, Heaven_Bound said:

6 But from the beginning of creation, God ‘made them male and female.   God is still placing what He is saying all the way back to 6 But from the beginning of creation...   If at the Beginning of Creation in Genesis Chapter 1, where God made them Male and Female, He is putting a timeline in place here.   And this timeline is relative to the Beginning of the Universe.   

 

 

I fully understand that is your opinion.