Question about Babylon

[truth7t7]

6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Jerusalem is the harlot which sits upon the beast. The beast is a kingdom with seven heads and ten horns. The seven heads are hills on which the city sits. 

Rome is far outside of the kingdom spoken of. The kingdom described here is the present day promised land,future kingdom of heaven. 

The ten horns are the same ten toes of Nebuchadnezzars image. The devided kingdom. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/2-41.htm

Rome is no where near this kingdom. 

After this kingdom is destroyed, he to whom it was promised will recieve it, which is Christ. 

https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-16.htm

You can learn the borders of this kingdom in scripture and you can see what nations share it now. 

If you learn the dates of those horns arising in this kingdom, you will learn a little horn came up last,different from the others. 

The Beast will be a literal individual human man, and is described with the personal pronoun "He", better known as the "Son Of Perdition"

Revelation 17:11KJV

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

2 Thessalonians 2:3KJV

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

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[Revelation Man]

40 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The 7 heads are mountains where the woman sits, "the woman is Jerusalem", that physically sits on seven literal mounts in Israel, plain, clear, easy to understand

Revelation 17:9KJV

You clearly do not understand it. 5 Have Fallen, did 5 hills fall? LOL

 

ONE IS

And one is YET TO COME. So, is one hill arising later? TBH I just SMH at those who can't grasp these things when confronted with how bad their Eschatology is via the facts.

[Sister]

Revelation 17:7   And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

It's only a mystery to those who don't understand. 

Babylon has been here since the beginning.  Since kingdoms started trading goods.  It started during the Kingdom of Egypt. The more goods a kingdom buys and sells, the more wealthier that kingdom is.  The more wealthier, the more power.  More power, means bigger armies, and money to pay those armies to defend and conquer.  Also enough money to bribe and corrupt individuals. Isn't that also happening today?

  Revelation 17:8   The beast that thou sawest was (ONE PEOPLE, ONE ARMY, ONE FALSE BELIEF SYSTEM), and is not (DURING THE DAYS OF JOHN, UNDER THE ROMANS - ONE PEOPLE, LIKE BEFORE); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, (IN THE END TIMES, THEY SHALL ALL BE ONE AGAIN...THE IDEA COMES FROM SATAN, FROM BELOW) and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. THE PLAN IS THERE IN SATAN'S MIND, HE'S DOING EVERYTHING TO FULLFILL. HIS KINGDOM BABYLON IS THERE AND IS GROWING.  HE CAN NOT BRING THE WHOLE WORLD BACK UNDER HIM UNTIL GOD ALLOWS HIM.  THE TRUTH HAS TO GO OUT FIRST SO ALL CAN BE WARNED.

  Revelation 17:9   And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, (KINGDOMS - GOD'S SPEECH, SPEAKING IN THE SPIRIT SO THE UNBELIEVING LUKE WARM DON'T UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GIVEN TO THEM) on which the woman sitteth.

WHAT SEVEN MOUNTAINS (KINGDOMS?)

  Revelation 17:10   And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

NOW JOHN IS EXPLAINING.  GO TO DANIEL, THE IMAGE, YOU WILL FIND THAT BABYLON THE HEAD IS THE 3RD KINGDOM OF THESE SEVEN HEADS.

BECAUSE THE FIRST & SECOND KINGDOMS HAD ALREADY COME AND GONE DURING THE DAYS OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR

1. EGYPT GONE

2. ASSYRIA GONE

SO THE FIVE KINGS WHO HAVE FALLING DURING THE DAYS OF JOHN WERE;

1. EGYPT

2. ASSYRIA

3. BABYLON

4. MEDO/PERSIA

5. GRECIA

WE ARE IN THE DAYS OF ROME

6. ROME (IS THE 'ONE IS' KINGDOM)

7. LATTER DAY ROME - THE BRITISH EMPIRE, HUGE (NOT YET COME IN JOHNS     DAY)

THAT WAS THE HEAD THAT WAS BRUISED. SHE GAVE BACK SO MUCH OF HER CONQUERED LANDS

WHEN THIS NO. 7 KINGDOM HEALS,  SHE WILL HAVE 10 KINGS RULING OVER HER KINGDOM.  THE FALSE PROPHET, SON OF PERDITION WILL COME OUT OF HER, THIS ONE, NO. 7. AND WHEN THEY ARE GIVEN AUTHORITY TO RULE, THEY WILL BECOME THE 8TH KINGDOM.

  Revelation 17:11   And the beast that was (ONE) and is not (NOT ONE DURING JOHNS DAY), even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, (COMES OUT OF THE 7TH KINGDOM) and goeth into perdition.

Capitals for emphasis, to make a very strong point.  Not yelling.  May Christ show the pure in heart this mystery.

Edited May 11, 2022 by Sister
cleaned up, fixed boo boos

[truth7t7]

28 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

You clearly do not understand it. 5 Have Fallen, did 5 hills fall? LOL

 

ONE IS

And one is YET TO COME. So, is one hill arising later? TBH I just SMH at those who can't grasp these things when confronted with how bad their Eschatology is via the facts.

I fully understand the english language

Verse 9 below ends in a great big "Period" ending the explanation of the 7 heads being 7 mountains on which the woman sitteth "Period"

Verse 10 is a completely new subject regarding 7 kings, ("And" there are seven kings)

It doesn't state the 7 heads, are 7 mountains, which are 7 kings

It clearly states the 7 heads are 7 mountains "Period" end of explanation, it's that simple

Revelation 17:9-10KJV

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

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[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

The Beast will be a literal individual human man, and is described with the personal pronoun "He", better known as the "Son Of Perdition"

Revelation 17:11KJV

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

2 Thessalonians 2:3KJV

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The son man of perdition is not the beast. The son of perdition( or destruction) is the king of the north. The beast attacks the king of the norths military stationed in Israel at the time of the end. The king of the north then has his armed forces use the abomination that causes desolation against the beast. 

[truth7t7]

46 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The son man of perdition is not the beast. The son of perdition( or destruction) is the king of the north. The beast attacks the king of the norths military stationed in Israel at the time of the end. The king of the north then has his armed forces use the abomination that causes desolation against the beast. 

I disagree, (The Beast) is a future literal human man,who is described by many names in the Bible

Daniel's (Little Horn)

Pauls (Man Of Sin) (Son Of Perdition)

John's (The Beast)

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[Shilohsfoal]

7 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

I disagree, (The Beast) is a future literal human man,who is described by many names in the Bible

Daniel's (Little Horn)

Pauls (Man Of Sin) (Son Of Perdition)

John's (The Beast)

No, they are not all the same. The little horn is separate from the other ten horns which give thier power to the beast. They are nothing alike as the little horn is the Jewish nation and the other ten are Muslim. They don't even like each other. 

The son of perdition comes from my home country. He will nuke all the nations that attack my home country and Israel. He is called the son of perdition because of the massive destruction he brings upon the middle east. 

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[truth7t7]

20 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

No, they are not all the same. The little horn is separate from the other ten horns which give thier power to the beast. They are nothing alike as the little horn is the Jewish nation and the other ten are Muslim. They don't even like each other. 

The son of perdition comes from my home country. He will nuke all the nations that attack my home country and Israel. He is called the son of perdition because of the massive destruction he brings upon the middle east. 

Thanks for the response, I respectfully disagree

The Little Horn, The Man Of Sin,, The Son Of Perdition, The Beast, are all the same future bad guy known as the "Antichrist"

Jesus Is The Lord

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[Heleadethme]

Mystery Babylon and Her Merchants

Perhaps we can allow the scriptures themselves help us to understand what the book of Revelation is talking about, what Mystery Babylon represents:

 

Pro 3:13-14

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

 

Pro 23:23

Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

 

Jhn 2:14-17

And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

 

2Pe 2:1-3

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

  

Rev 18:10

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

Rev 18:15

The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

Rev 18:23

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

(ie, especially big name ministries, men of renown)

Rev 13:17

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Thanks for the response, I respectfully disagree

The Little Horn, The Man Of Sin,, The Son Of Perdition, The Beast, are all the same future bad guy known as the "Antichrist"

Jesus Is The Lord

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/8-12.htm

Then who gives the little horn the host if not the man of destruction?