Christ was First but not first

[BeyondET]

1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Ok how you connect that with Elijah I don't know, he was not dead when he went up.

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[DeighAnn]

Just now, BeyondET said:

Ok how you connect that with Elijah I don't know, he was not dead when he went up.

I wasn't, I was connecting with the 'title of the thread'.  

[DeighAnn]

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

[BeyondET]

1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

I wasn't, I was connecting with the 'title of the thread'.  

Ok you said they were changed before going up, do you got scripture to back it up? The change part I'm not talking about NT but OT.

[BeyondET]

1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Huh and this has to do with what?

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[DeighAnn]

9 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

Ok you said they were changed before going up, do you got scripture to back it up? The change part I'm not talking about NT but OT.

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[BeyondET]

4 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

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You opened up with they were changed in what way? 

 

We have Enoch and Elijah who 'alive' were changed and raised up to heaven

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[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, BeyondET said:

You opened up with they were changed in what way? 

 

We have Enoch and Elijah who 'alive' were changed and raised up to heaven

Flesh and blood, the natural body, the earthly body CAN'T go into heaven  (except for Jesus). Just like decay doesn't inherit immortality.  How do we know?  It is written

1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Not everyone is going to die BUT EVERYONE will be changed. That is what is written, that is what I believe.  

We read how Elijah was taken away, not that he died.  We know Enoch 'walked' with God.  I hope this clears it up for you.  

[BeyondET]

2 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Flesh and blood, the natural body, the earthly body CAN'T go into heaven  (except for Jesus). Just like decay doesn't inherit immortality.  How do we know?  It is written

1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Not everyone is going to die BUT EVERYONE will be changed. That is what is written, that is what I believe.  

We read how Elijah was taken away, not that he died.  We know Enoch 'walked' with God.  I hope this clears it up for you.  

Then I guess we can agree Jesus was the first and only.

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[BeyondET]

applying 1 cor 15 to two people in the Old Testament that nobody's know where God took them. Was it the First heaven, second heaven. Third heaven who knows,

 

2 Corinthians 12:2

2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows.

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