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[creativemechanic]

What do you think of this perspective I heard from another christian.

A mistake we as Christians  can make is thinking its our place to make people live like we think they should against their will.  Something that God himself doesnt do.

God will give us  directions and warnings of what to do through His word or via prophets in Bible times and then leave the individual to make their choice.  If they chose wrong, theyll get the consequences of their decisions. Samwe way, we should speak up and call sin, sin but beyond that , its not in our jurisdiction to do much else

But often times, we christians dont do that . We sometimes try to force people, especially the unsaved to live according to Biblical principles (that christians themselves sometimes dont follow)

Eg  we try to make a big fuss politically and marches etc to bar or ban gay marriage and abortions. Yes its a sin, yes, it goes against Gods word and we should never compromise and act like its not. but its their choice to make and God will deal with them for their decision.  This is problematic too because.

1) It's none of our business.

2) These are the same people we should be trying to reach with the gospel. Doing stuff like this can make that harder.

30 It makes  us look hypocritical because we dont raise as much a stink  if any about other issues that the bible prohibits- eg What dont we make a big noise for poverty allieviation policy, where's the anti-divorce movements, why dont we protest fornication?

 

What do you  think?

[Jayne]

I think [bad] politics can get in the way of what Christians are truly supposed to be doing.

We should be voting, promoting Godly leaders, and Godly living.  We should be promoting and teaching and upholding Godly morality.

BUT here is the BIG problem.

Our biggest duty is to lead people to Jesus Christ.  And that NEVER works when you blow up abortion centers, or call gay people fags and queers or verbal abuse "sinners" and ignore your own personal abominations to God.

• You can't SCREAM hostilities at those who support abortion if you weigh 250 pounds with a turkey leg in one hand and a piece of pie in the others.  You can diligently teach your chlldren and others that abortion is sinful because it kills babies and  you can tend to support pro-life candidates.  There's a difference.  

 

• You can't hate and mock gay and transgender people and SCREAM how they are all going to hell and call them all queers and other hateful names if you are sleeping with someone you are not married to or have porn on your computer.  You CAN support candidates who support traditional marriage and teach your children and others what God says about marriage.  There is a difference.

There are far too many Christians SCREAMING and spewing their disdain/hate at "sinners".  And they completely ignore their own sin.  

Why we do think there is no revival in America?

We love to hate - just like the world does. 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Jayne

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, creativemechanic said:

What do you think of this perspective I heard from another christian.

A mistake we as Christians  can make is thinking its our place to make people live like we think they should against their will.  Something that God himself doesnt do.

God will give us  directions and warnings of what to do through His word or via prophets in Bible times and then leave the individual to make their choice.  If they chose wrong, theyll get the consequences of their decisions. Samwe way, we should speak up and call sin, sin but beyond that , its not in our jurisdiction to do much else

But often times, we christians dont do that . We sometimes try to force people, especially the unsaved to live according to Biblical principles (that christians themselves sometimes dont follow)

Eg  we try to make a big fuss politically and marches etc to bar or ban gay marriage and abortions. Yes its a sin, yes, it goes against Gods word and we should never compromise and act like its not. but its their choice to make and God will deal with them for their decision.  This is problematic too because.

1) It's none of our business.

2) These are the same people we should be trying to reach with the gospel. Doing stuff like this can make that harder.

30 It makes  us look hypocritical because we dont raise as much a stink  if any about other issues that the bible prohibits- eg What dont we make a big noise for poverty allieviation policy, where's the anti-divorce movements, why dont we protest fornication?

 

What do you  think?

It sounds controlling. A controlling and manipulative spirit is not what God wants. God knows everyone's heart. Leave it to Him. 

[bropro]

4 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

What do you think of this perspective I heard from another christian.

A mistake we as Christians  can make is thinking its our place to make people live like we think they should against their will.  Something that God himself doesnt do.

God will give us  directions and warnings of what to do through His word or via prophets in Bible times and then leave the individual to make their choice.  If they chose wrong, theyll get the consequences of their decisions. Samwe way, we should speak up and call sin, sin but beyond that , its not in our jurisdiction to do much else

But often times, we christians dont do that . We sometimes try to force people, especially the unsaved to live according to Biblical principles (that christians themselves sometimes dont follow)

Eg  we try to make a big fuss politically and marches etc to bar or ban gay marriage and abortions. Yes its a sin, yes, it goes against Gods word and we should never compromise and act like its not. but its their choice to make and God will deal with them for their decision.  This is problematic too because.

1) It's none of our business.

2) These are the same people we should be trying to reach with the gospel. Doing stuff like this can make that harder.

30 It makes  us look hypocritical because we dont raise as much a stink  if any about other issues that the bible prohibits- eg What dont we make a big noise for poverty allieviation policy, where's the anti-divorce movements, why dont we protest fornication?

 

What do you  think?

If we as the church would fulfil the great commission as we should, things would be different. We would see more people transformed into disciples of Christ, who are making more disciples of Christ, who are affecting those in our communities. God transforms people, who transform communities, who  transform societies by way of the preaching of the Gospel of the kingdom of God. Our responsibility is to view all people, regardless of their sinfulness, as people for whom Christ died.

Gary

Edited June 11, 2022 by bropro

[TreeFivew]

On 6/11/2022 at 1:37 PM, creativemechanic said:

What do you think of this perspective I heard from another christian.

A mistake we as Christians  can make is thinking its our place to make people live like we think they should against their will.  Something that God himself doesnt do.

God will give us  directions and warnings of what to do through His word or via prophets in Bible times and then leave the individual to make their choice.  If they chose wrong, theyll get the consequences of their decisions. Samwe way, we should speak up and call sin, sin but beyond that , its not in our jurisdiction to do much else

But often times, we christians dont do that . We sometimes try to force people, especially the unsaved to live according to Biblical principles (that christians themselves sometimes dont follow)

Eg  we try to make a big fuss politically and marches etc to bar or ban gay marriage and abortions. Yes its a sin, yes, it goes against Gods word and we should never compromise and act like its not. but its their choice to make and God will deal with them for their decision.  This is problematic too because.

1) It's none of our business.

2) These are the same people we should be trying to reach with the gospel. Doing stuff like this can make that harder.

30 It makes  us look hypocritical because we dont raise as much a stink  if any about other issues that the bible prohibits- eg What dont we make a big noise for poverty allieviation policy, where's the anti-divorce movements, why dont we protest fornication?

 

What do you  think?

We can lovingly attempt to win them into salvation through the Creator’s help.