A Mis - Understood Topic: Timing of the Rapture

[Montana Marv]

22 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

You have been clearly shown that Ezekiel chapters 47-48 is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven & Earth where the river and tree of life are present

Another error you have documented. The Truth is Ezk 47:15 - This is the boundary of the land.  On the North side it will run from the Great Sea by the Hamath road...  v.18 - On the east side the boundary.. to the Eastern Sea.

Now take a look at Rev 21:1 - Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any Sea.

It can not get any clearer than that.  Two different periods of time.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

You have proved nothing. Post Trib is not found in Scripture, the more you quote Scripture, the more in Error you are.  Jesus Christ the Word (established in the beginning) says that only God the Father knows the timing of the Bridegroom. It is just your misinterpretation of the Scriptures, applying something which is not there.

In Christ

Montana Marv

The Scripture Below "Clearly Teaches", The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ Is "Post-Trib", Before The Forum's Eyes

Matthew 24:29-30KJV

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Edited July 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

Another error you have documented. The Truth is Ezk 47:15 - This is the boundary of the land.  On the North side it will run from the Great Sea by the Hamath road...  v.18 - On the east side the boundary.. to the Eastern Sea.

Now take a look at Rev 21:1 - Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any Sea.

It can not get any clearer than that.  Two different periods of time.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

 

Your Living In Denial Marv, Ezekiel 47:12 And Revelation 22:1-2 Is The Very Same River And Tree Of Life

 

Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is The Eternal Kingdom, Dont Be Deceived

 

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

 

(The Eternal Kingdom)

 

Ezekiel 47:12KJV

12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

 

(The Eternal Kingdom)

 

Revelation 22:1-2KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

Now take a look at Rev 21:1 - Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any Sea.

It can not get any clearer than that.  Two different periods of time.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

Revelation 21:1KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

(Sea/Waters) In Revelation Represents Multitudes Of People, Not Oceans Of Literal Water As You Claim

The New Heaven And Earth Won't Have A "Sea" Or Multitudes Of People, Narrow Is The Way, Few Will Find Salvation And Go To The New Heaven And Earth "There Was No More Sea"

Examples, Revelation Interpretation:

The Whore Sits Upon Waters, "Multitudes Of People", Not Literal Water

Revelation 17:15KJV

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

The Beast Will Rise Out Of The "Sea" meaning multitudes of people, not from the literal water, like the creature from the Black lagoon

Revelation 13:1KJV

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Edited July 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[Montana Marv]

30 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The Scripture Below "Clearly Teaches", The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ Is "Post-Trib", Before The Forum's Eyes

Matthew 24:29-30KJV

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

We are talking Rapture which only the Father knows.  The OP says nothing about the timing of the 2nd Coming. Don't mix the two up. We know the 2nd Coming follows Armageddon. What Scripture doesn't reveal is the timing of the Rapture. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

 

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

We are talking Rapture which only the Father knows.  The OP says nothing about the timing of the 2nd Coming. Don't mix the two up. We know the 2nd Coming follows Armageddon. What Scripture doesn't reveal is the timing of the Rapture. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

 

Scripture clearly teaches the "Catching Up" takes place at the "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ in the clouds of heaven as 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 teaches below 

Scripture clearly teaches that this "Second Coming" takes place "Immediately After The Tribulation" as Matthew 24:29-30 teaches below

Marv, There Is Only "One" Future Coming Of Jesus Christ In The Clouds Of Heaven

Marv, The (Catching Up/Rapture) Is Post-Trib As Scripture Clearly Teaches Below

Second Coming (Caught Up/Rapture)

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17KJV

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Edited July 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[Montana Marv]

I can miss apply Scripture also. This also is out of context and does not reference anyone. 

Judas went out and hanged himself.  Do so likewise. Whatever you do, do quickly.  Do it before the sun goes down. 

A lot of true Scripture misapplied. 

Now you're saying Great sea, people  and Eastern sea, people and not boundaries in as it says. These are some of the confines of the Land.  Sea boundaries of the Promised Land.  Don't take it out of context. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

[truth7t7]

29 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

I can miss apply Scripture also. This also is out of context and does not reference anyone. 

Judas went out and hanged himself.  Do so likewise. Whatever you do, do quickly.  Do it before the sun goes down. 

A lot of true Scripture misapplied. 

Now you're saying Great sea, people  and Eastern sea, people and not boundaries in as it says. These are some of the confines of the Land.  Sea boundaries of the Promised Land.  Don't take it out of context. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

"You" a direct personal reference to the poster in response!

Your response is sick and morbid in my opinion, my response to you ceases at this point!

Jesus Is The Lord

Edited July 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

19 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

"You" a direct personal reference to the poster in response!

Your response is sick and morbid in my opinion, my response to you ceases at this point!

Jesus Is The Lord

Leap for joy when men revile you for great is your reward. Now is your chance to show real spirit.

Though we are oftentimes opponents, this time I am with you.

[Montana Marv]

3 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Leap for joy when men revile you for great is your reward. Now is your chance to show real spirit.

Though we are oftentimes opponents, this time I am with you.

Not reviling Truth7, Just his position.  He continues to say the 2nd Coming and the Rapture are the same event or very near each other.  Lists verses about the 2nd Coming, then adds verses with the process of the Rapture (not the time of) and says they are one.  Yet, Only God the Father knows the timing of the Bridegroom (Rapture).  It is many who give us these revelations of its time, then is it OK for me to call them god the father.  god the father says Mid-Trib, he also says Pre-Wrath, and yet he also says Post-Trib.  And yet God the Father is is not the Word or Scripture, but the Son is.  Not believing this is a mistake made by many.

In Christ

Montana Marv