The science not known by many increasingly supports the Bible.

[Uriah]

A recent video from the premier website for the Electric Universe is one of the latest examples of mostly atheists following the science and confirming events from the ancient past.

This site has has been crucial in my pursuit of apologetics and served as a treasure trove of information that provided many answers regarding eschatology and even the Red Sea crossing. 

Hexagon craters throughout the solar system, the origin of ancient catastrophe stories from past cultures, fossilization past and recent, the impossibility of a big bang, black holes, dark matter, dark energy, more recent creation of the cosmos and on and on and on are meticulously explained. 

As for me, I will share other findings that were derived by my searching of this branch of science. 

[teddyv]

Wow. I heard about Electric Universe years ago but did not know it was still a thing.

[The Barbarian]

2 hours ago, teddyv said:

Wow. I heard about Electric Universe years ago but did not know it was still a thing.

Kinda imploded on itself, as its internal contradictions became too much even for many of its adherents.  A few years ago...

Based on cutting-edge research, the SAFIRE team is developing a new, clean energy, nuclear-plasma reactor, which will not only be able to produce clean energy, but is expected to be able to clean up nuclear waste.

https://thesecularheretic.com/the-electric-universe-heresy/

Had a few technical issues along the way it seems.

 

 

[Retrobyter]

2 hours ago, Uriah said:

A recent video from the premier website for the Electric Universe is one of the latest examples of mostly atheists following the science and confirming events from the ancient past.

This site has has been crucial in my pursuit of apologetics and served as a treasure trove of information that provided many answers regarding eschatology and even the Red Sea crossing. 

Hexagon craters throughout the solar system, the origin of ancient catastrophe stories from past cultures, fossilization past and recent, the impossibility of a big bang, black holes, dark matter, dark energy, more recent creation of the cosmos and on and on and on are meticulously explained. 

As for me, I will share other findings that were derived by my searching of this branch of science. 

Shabbat shalom, Uriah.

This is really true and is supported in many Scripture passages. However, it's not just electric; it's also magnetic. That's what light is! Electromagnetic (EM) Radiation!

John 1:1-4 (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

That's NOT just figurative speech!

Also, there's the "burning bush":

Exodus 3:1-6 (KJV)

1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. 2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. 3 And Moses said,

"I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt."

4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said,

"Moses, Moses."

And he said,

"Here am I."

5 And he said,

"Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground."

6 Moreover he said,

"I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob."

And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Then, there's Moses' encounter with God on Mount Sinai later:

Exodus 34:27-35 (KJV)

27 And the LORD said unto Moses,

"Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel."

28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him. 30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him. 31 And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the rulers of the congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them. 32 And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the LORD had spoken with him in mount Sinai. 33 And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face. 34 But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded. 35 And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.

Paul had this to say about this encounter in the second epistle to the Corinthians:

2 Corinthians 3:7-18 (KJV)

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away (faded away): 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

And, then He had already told these same people in his first epistle:

1 Corinthians 15:35-49 (KJV)

35 But some man will say,

"How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.

It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory:
it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written,

"The first man Adam was made a living soul";

the last Adam was made a quickening spirit (life-giving wind). 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven (Greek: ek tou ouranou = "from the sky"). 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly (Greek: ho epouranios = "the-one from-above-the-sky"), such are they also that are heavenly (Greek: hoi epouranioi = "the-ones of-or-belonging-to-above-the-sky"). 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly (Greek: teen eikona tou epouraniou = "the likeness of-the-one from-above-the-sky").

The bottom line is this: Our new bodies will GLOW in the visible light spectrum! Our currrent bodies glow, as well, but only in the infrared region as heat. To a medium sensitive to the infrared region, such as an infrared camera, we can actually see this glow on film or a monitor that can translate this glow into visible light for our eyes!

[Uriah]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

a few technical issues

Of course, that is science. Putting it in the balance against the failures of the "consensus" clinging to perhaps the outdated theories that have failed, its a situation that will only change over time. That is the way science works too.

[Uriah]

1 hour ago, Retrobyter said:

This is really true and is supported in many Scripture passages. However, it's not just electric; it's also magnetic. That's what light is! Electromagnetic (EM) Radiation!

Magnetism requires electric current to exist. 

 

1 hour ago, Retrobyter said:

Also, there's the "burning bush"

At the risk of being called a heretic, the burning bush that was not consumed was also related to the pillar of fire that Moses entered. (which I believe was the time when he was taken to the mount of transfiguration) Many ancient people had never seen auroras and when seeing these things could only relate them appearance to the similarity to the faint flames that move over the glowing coals in the fire pit.

 

Consider the Red sea crossing. The pillar of fire was there! I believe it was used by God to part the Red Sea. It was responsible for the chariots of the Egyptians to be "drove heavily". The charges could push the water apart (water is diamagnetic) and burst the algae (containing carrageenan) which then "congealed"!

Also, people must have asked Moses what he saw when he was in the pillar. Especially while looking up. I believe his description is with us even today. The above pillar would be made of smaller filaments that wind around each other like coax.  

As seen throughout the solar system, there are hexagon shaped craters because of these discharges when in creased in energy begin to have fewer "strands" until they get about six. the inner portion pushes outward while the outer area squeezes inward.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Uriah

[The Barbarian]

43 minutes ago, Uriah said:

Of course, that is science. Putting it in the balance against the failures of the "consensus" clinging to perhaps the outdated theories that have failed

I notice that NASA completely ignores the electric universe stuff and successfully navigates the solar system, using the "outdated theories" and consensus of real physicists and engineers.    So there is that.

 

[The Barbarian]

Pretty diagrams, though.   But you forgot the math.

 

[Uriah]

53 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

I notice that NASA completely ignores the electric universe stuff and successfully navigates the solar system, using the "outdated theories" and consensus of real physicists and engineers.    So there is that.

 

It looks like you are painting me as thinking ALL of the current science  is wrong. THAT is wrong. Navigational processes in space is mostly math. Math is never outdated.

[The Barbarian]

I notice that NASA completely ignores the electric universe stuff and successfully navigates the solar system, using the "outdated theories" and consensus of real physicists and engineers.    So there is that.

9 minutes ago, Uriah said:

It looks like you are painting me as thinking ALL of the current science  is wrong. THAT is wrong. Navigational processes in space is mostly math. Math is never outdated.

NASA uses Newton's theory of gravitation to navigate the solar system, occasionally fine-tuning using relativity.  It ignores "electric universe" ideas.   And it works just as the theories predict.   The math is based on those theories.    This is how scientific hypotheses are validated into theories.    When someone can do that without gravitation and relativity, using "electric universe" then you've got a case.   Until then, no.  

I would like to see the math for a simple orbit, using "electric universe" equations.   What do you have?

 

 

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by The Barbarian