Genesis Questions

[JohnR7]

On 8/26/2022 at 10:30 AM, Starise said:

Some translations show some bias.

We only need the books of Moses and the Red letters spoken by Jesus. I would not want to give up the Psalms because David shows His love for the law of God. No one can add to what we receive from Moses or Jesus. So I go back to look at what they said to help me understand a passage from another book in the Bible. 

Numbers 12:7 "…6He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, will reveal Myself to him in a vision; I will speak to him in a dream. 7But this is not so with My servant Moses; he is faithful in all My house. 8I speak with him face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD."

[JohnR7]

On 8/4/2022 at 10:38 AM, Sower said:

thinking how cool it would be to see one of His creations

There were a lot of artifacts preserved by the early church, but some of them are questionable.  We are told, in places like Egypt, a lot of artifacts are hidden in the dusty archives of museums. Maybe for the better because there are people that would seek to destroy them. 

[Starise]

18 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

This is a catch 22 because God does NOT give us the ability to be able to determine who they are. We are told if our heart is pure, then everyone one will appear to be pure. (Titus 1:15)

Tha context of that verse means to those who are pure ( in Christ). Those who have been saved, they are pure. The verse says nothing about Christians not having the ability to see good and evil.

The Bible tells us that many false teachers are crept in unawares. They look like us and talk like us but speak things not in the bible.

None of them have hats that say " apostate" on them. Yet by their words and actions we can tell.

[Starise]

18 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

We only need the books of Moses and the Red letters spoken by Jesus. I would not want to give up the Psalms because David shows His love for the law of God. No one can add to what we receive from Moses or Jesus. So I go back to look at what they said to help me understand a passage from another book in the Bible. 

Numbers 12:7 "…6He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, will reveal Myself to him in a vision; I will speak to him in a dream. 7But this is not so with My servant Moses; he is faithful in all My house. 8I speak with him face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD."

Numbers 12:7

This is the Lord speaking to the group He called because some of the Israelites we're questioning Moses and faulting him for marrying an Ethiopian woman. This group was saying they felt God could speak with them too. 

The Lord initiates a meeting with Moses,Aaron and Miriam. This was a big deal because the Lord came down from the pillar of cloud and met them at the doorway of the Tabernacle.

This ALL only pertained to the Israelites and Moses. Since the life and death of Jesus, we all have access to the throne through Him.

[JohnR7]

5 hours ago, Starise said:

This ALL only pertained to the Israelites and Moses. Since the life and death of Jesus, we all have access to the throne through Him.

Many people were raised from the dead after Calvary. So this would indicate there was a difference between those who look forward to Calvary and those who look back. Many saints appeared to many people, then we do not hear what happened to them. 

Matthew 27 "52The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people. 

[JohnR7]

6 hours ago, Starise said:

The verse says nothing about Christians not having the ability to see good and evil.

It does to me. Although Matthew 7 makes this a lot more clear:  [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

The teachings of Jesus are often multi faceted. For example, when He tells us to "do onto others" we find this teaching or a variation of this teaching in all the different religions. We are told this goes back to Abraham and perhaps all the way back to Adam. 

People may seem to be oblivious to the pain, misery or suffering they cause in others. But we believe a time will come when they themselves will experience what they have caused in others. Some think that if they feel no guilt or remorse, then they are not saved persons. 

[WilliamL]

On 8/25/2022 at 9:50 PM, JohnR7 said:

On 8/25/2022 at 11:07 AM, WilliamL said:

There are multiple contradictions between the Gospel writers alone

There are no contradictions, and I have checked many of them, to verify that there are no contradictions in the original text.

And yet you failed to answer the question I raised.

Then you say you "verify that there are no contradictions in the original text," when you have never even seen an original text of a single book of the Bible.

These kinds of self-justifying arguments mean zip to any educated unbeliever, and only tend to sour them on the faith such believers profess. Because all such justifications lack rational credibility. Which is why I avoid them, and encourage other Christians to do likewise. They remind me of the "witness" all good Mormons spout about the infallibility of their own faith.

[JohnR7]

9 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Then you say you "verify that there are no contradictions in the original text," when you have never even seen an original text of a single book of the Bible.

Of course, I have, I always look the verses up in the original language and I have studied the Hebrew language. I know how to read, translate and interpret the Bible because I have the Holy Spirit of God as my Teacher and Guide. 

[JohnR7]

9 hours ago, WilliamL said:

These kinds of self-justifying arguments

I'm not giving you an argument. I am simply telling you that I have studied this for hundreds of hours and I come to a different conclusion than you do. People can do with that what they want. I can ONLY give a witness and testimony to what I know is true and what I have verified for myself. 

God has raised me up from the dead many times and I do not think He would have done that if he was not happy with the way I represent Him.  So whatever you believe is between you and God. I personally have NOTHING to do with that. 

Of course people are always guilty of what they accuse others of. So maybe you need to remove the log from your eye before you try to help me with the splinter in mine. 

 

[branchesofHim]

On 8/26/2022 at 4:22 AM, B-B said:

You have stated that this is ‘interesting’.

Why is this interesting for you?

Proverbs 25:[2] It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.