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Well i couldn't find a "political" sub forum so am sorry if this was the wrong place to post it but my question was basically about why so many Conservative Christians have always loved Trump so much who may believe in God/Christ but doesn't really openly profess it or witness to others about his "faith",  such as people like Ted Cruz and Mike Pence who both have gotten such a bad rap? I believe he may have once claimed to be a "non-denominational Christian" but he is not at all outspoken about it. Anyway was just curious why everyone is so enamored with him and if he did decide to run again i still would probably end up voting for another Republican candidate, but just my opinion. And also i know he has probably been misjudged and mistreated by some of the things that the Left has been doing but at the same time i just find it very hard to sympathize with a Billionare, but guess that's just me.


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Actually i did just find one political section i probably should have posted in but you can't delete these posts and besides there were already a lot of replies in at least one Trump discussion, but either way i do welcome any comments to this, thanks.

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26 minutes ago, CaptWalker said:

Actually i did just find one political section i probably should have posted in but you can't delete these posts and besides there were already a lot of replies in at least one Trump discussion, but either way i do welcome any comments to this, thanks.

Report your OP and ask a moderator to move your topic to the US Politics forum. That's the best way to capture the attention of a moderator. :)

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28 minutes ago, CaptWalker said:

i just find it very hard to sympathize with a Billionare.

they are betting on that

 

 

its funny you don't mention how the economy responded to his presidency or how he kept N. Korea and Putin in check as compared to what’s happening now. They are all rich and influential the only difference is are they the real deal or not.


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50 minutes ago, CaptWalker said:

Well i couldn't find a "political" sub forum so am sorry if this was the wrong place to post it but my question was basically about why so many Conservative Christians have always loved Trump so much who may believe in God/Christ but doesn't really openly profess it or witness to others about his "faith",  such as people like Ted Cruz and Mike Pence who both have gotten such a bad rap? I believe he may have once claimed to be a "non-denominational Christian" but he is not at all outspoken about it. Anyway was just curious why everyone is so enamored with him and if he did decide to run again i still would probably end up voting for another Republican candidate, but just my opinion. And also i know he has probably been misjudged and mistreated by some of the things that the Left has been doing but at the same time i just find it very hard to sympathize with a Billionare, but guess that's just me.

I have always wondered why so many Christians loved Trump. He has no character, integrity, morals or values. No it is not just you. 


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2 hours ago, DPMartin said:

they are betting on that

 

 

its funny you don't mention how the economy responded to his presidency or how he kept N. Korea and Putin in check as compared to what’s happening now. They are all rich and influential the only difference is are they the real deal or not.

I am well familiar with how much he has done for the economy and how Putin was not going to even think about invading Ukraine knowing Trump would likely intervene in a much more serious way than anyone else like Biden would ever dream of doing. But WW3 wasn't meant to happen this soon anyway but Trump did a great job which i am not disputing, but am only wondering why he is so widely seen as one of the greatest presidents ever such as how author Jonathan Cahn has portrayed him to be? And maybe God WAS using him in the 4 years years he was in office, but i personally believe that is past and he will not be back, imo. And as far as his net worth goes, i really don't care just as i wouldn't about any other rich politicians, and whatever "they" are doing to bring him down i simply consider it one of the things that people with that much wealth have to put up with sometimes, especially if you are insisting on being one of the leaders of the free world rather than just go your own merry way and be happy being so rich and with a beautiful model wife...just saying.  

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I voted for him because, quite frankly he couldn't be controlled by either party...he had the money he didn't need to, which is hard to find in either party.

And while I'm not blind I realize he wasn't perfect and messed up...he overall did a really good job. A lot better then the puppet who is in office right now.

Would I vote for him again? I don't know. Time will tell, we will see who is on the ballot come 2024.

 


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2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I have always wondered why so many Christians loved Trump. He has no character, integrity, morals or values. No it is not just you. 

 

2 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

my question was basically about why so many Conservative Christians have always loved Trump so much who may believe in God/Christ but doesn't really openly profess it or witness to others about his "faith",  such as people like Ted Cruz and Mike Pence who both have gotten such a bad rap?

 I voted for the fact he had no good ole boys to answer too, and he understands how business works as evident through his presidency. I voted for someone to run the country closest to my on values. I did not vote for a good Christian, a preacher, nor a plumber. I voted for someone qualified to run the country.

Considering the buffoon (puppet) in office that should be in the nursing home,  I wonder about all those 'never Trumpers' who vote Democrat, here on this "Christian" forum, knowing what all they stand for and push down our throats.  Do the never Trumpers actually prefer the leftist agenda just to feel good voting against someone whose hairstyle and success you dislike?
 

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For POTUS, only one of the two major political parties will be elected. We could say the lessor of two weevils in most cases in my lifetime. How many presidents have we had lately demonstrated “put America first?”

I do not go to the voting booth to vote for a pastor or clergyman. I won’t vote for the candidate that promises me more from the public treasury and socialism, that is not the role of our Constitutional government. I vote for the candidate that best represents my moral values. I’ve read the Democratic Party official platform statements, and it makes me sick.

I think both parties are trains, both will take us to the same destination, but one will take us to it like a bullet train.

I do not admire Trump for his past and cheeky personality, or his ego, but by all appearances, he is a man of his word. No other president, in my recollection, tried so hard with so much opposition to live up to his campaign promises. Only Trump and the Lord know if he is saved or not, but by his words and actions, he certainly is not fighting against God (i.e. From happy holidays reverting back to Merry Christmas for one example).

He immediately surrounded himself with Christian and capable advisors, not so much political appointees. He was not dependent know toeing the line for political campaign contributions and favors to be repaid.

There is no question Trump was a friend and blessing to Israel. While in the office, it started looking like the Lord was giving us a brief Nineveh moment; our course and things were beginning to reverse. Pence finally showed his true colors and threw Trump and our country under the bus. O'Biden took office and look at the changes and situation we now face. 

Finally, it is a blessing to live in freedom and not under a dictator and harsh rule as many Christians have and are. To live above ground as Christians attending churches, openly sharing the Gospel, not hiding in underground churches as the early Christians had to.

1 Timothy 2:1 (KJV) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2. For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

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I believe in the philosophy behind the platform.

I keep going back to the pics of Trump with past democratic presidents on a buddy golf outing or similar. Let that sink in. Buddy's,friends,pals. 

The only reason to bring Trump back would be to cause further division.  We need another Republican front runner. If Trump wants to back him or her that's fine. Jmop 

 

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