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13 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Nice posting. Yes, our Lord Jesus went through the full process of human life, death and resurrection.

We must show that his Life was not given from a man, that he pre-existed before the Creation of man. 

We must show that he was the enforcer of the Covenant, the Lord God who made the Covenant with the Israelites in the dessert. 

The King of Israel.

We must show that the leaders put to death the other party to the Covenant of Sinai.

This is how the Covenant of Sinai was ended. 

The people of the Covenant put to death the other party to their Covenant...

The Covenant ended when Jesus Christ died on the Cross. 

That's why the veil was torn Twain in the Temple...

That moment the sanctity of the Temple and the sanctity of the vessels in the Temple was taken away..

They became common....lost their holiness...common...


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Greetings and blessings to all, that I might say a few things on such an important topic…

Leviticus 17:11 (NASB20)
‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.’

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As scripture says blood is of value by reason of the life in it that makes atonement…. For God is not some blood thirsty monster that needs blood shed to forgive sins…. All of God’s salvation is in accordance to the natural nature of things, meaning all things effects come from a cause that is capable of producing the required effect…

It was the fall into the life of this world that was man’s fall and separation from God… Therefore is it that same life that must be given up…. This is why blood sacrifice was set up in the OT to represent what was necessary to be made right with God again, which was the pouring out of the life of this world…

Christ’s sacrifice of Himself was to give up His life in this world to walk by faith towards God, as He opened the door of faith towards God so are we too to walk, and by faith give up the life of this world.. All of God’s means of salvation are from cause and effect, that which was grabbed onto must be given up, it was the receiving the life of this world that was man’s separation from God, therefore this life must be brought to naught if man was to receive a new life… This is what caused Christ to shed great drops of sweat as blood, because He took and underwent taking every man’s death with Him to death, and had to do this in the same state of life as the man that fell, and not as God… For Christ had to become a man to save man, the fall was fallen by a man therefore only the same could effect the reversal of the fall…

For God is good in the nature of things, and only a natural remedy could effect and restore man to fellowship with God, therefore Christ’s blood is a propitiation for sins… Because the receiving of the life of this world was the fall, and the life of this world is in the blood, therefore blood is the sacrifice for sins….

Therefore does scripture say Christ tasted death for every man, so he that by faith grabs unto this truth will walk in newness of life….

May we all see deeply into the mystery of Christ’s death…

Be blessed, Not me 

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7 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

God is not a laundry that clean our heart and make it holy instantly. Without repentance how can we become holy.

 

This goes back to Genesis 49:11 "he will wash his garments in wine, his robes in the blood of grapes." If your having trouble understanding these verses in the Bible maybe a commentary would help you. Or you could sign up for some classes at your local Bible College and they could help you to understand the meaning of these passages. Also you can do a google search. I am sure something would come up there. Or just let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and guide. I am just showing you some scriptures for your consideration. You do not need me to help you understand them. 

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1 hour ago, Not me said:

Leviticus 17:11 (NASB20)
‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood

My heart stopped once. I think they call it congestive heart failure. The lungs fill up with fluids and the result is you can not get any oxygen to the heart or brain. We know that oxygen is carried in the blood. They were able to revive and resuscitate me. Without oxygen we will pass out very fast. In about a minute. 

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8 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

My heart stopped once. I think they call it congestive heart failure. The lungs fill up with fluids and the result is you can not get any oxygen to the heart or brain. We know that oxygen is carried in the blood. They were able to revive and resuscitate me. Without oxygen we will pass out very fast. In about a minute. 

Hello, am glad God saw you through, and be blessed by having His life as yours.. 

Unto Him be our lives, Not me 


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38 minutes ago, Not me said:

Hello, am glad God saw you through, and be blessed by having His life as yours.. 

 

Tks

God has His way of doing things. May times I have been revived and resuscitated.

God usually tells me if I would live right, I would not have to go through that. 

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7 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

God usually tells me if I would live right, I would not have to go through that. 

Joy to the heart of God….

For this is the lesson we all have to learn, and the learning of it, is the dying to own will…

Be blessed in your learning of it..


A fellow learner, Not me 


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8 hours ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

It’s the Holy Spirit who births us into Christ, then we are saved!

Without the sacrifice that Jesus made, through the will of the Father, ..in other words, he had to die, before we can receive his Spirit permanently in our hearts...

Only God can birth you into Christ, by his grace and mercy we are birthed/ born again/ regenerated, then we are his and saved from eternal damnation...we are no longer alienated from God.....the path is narrow, but, if you are truly born again, we have the power of the Holy Spirit within us, that keeps us on that narrow path......without PAIN being in Christ, there would be NO GAIN!!...I’ve had great sorrow and heartbreak walking with Christ,I’ve also have had great joy, everything that we go through,imo/ belief, is making us into the image of Jesus, Praise Him for everything we go through, because he knows what’s best for us.

Born Again then saved from eternal damnation!

 

John 3:5-8

Jesus answered ,I tell you the truth ,no- one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is bornof water and the Spirit.

Flesh gives birth to flesh ,but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

You should not be surprised at my saying.

You must be born again .

The wind blows wherever it pleases.

You hear it’s sound ,but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.

So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.

 

its God who births us into Christ that saves us, but Jesus blood had to be shed, in order for that to happen,....so his blood was shed first, then by HIS grace and mercy,we can be birthed in the Spirit.born again, that is God’s word...you are not His unless you are born again, as his word says!

Thanks for answering. I wanted to point out there is nothing in the blood itself that saves us. But the death saves us. The life is in the blood so it was shed to show us the life is given. Like I pointed out if he shed his blood but did not file the blood would not be enough. We received the holy spirit when we believe in Christ. According to Ephesians 1.


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1 hour ago, Not me said:

the dying to own will…

That is pretty much it. Pick up our cross and follow Jesus.  Die to self so we can live for God.

Sooner or later, this body of passion and sin dies, so we will be free from it then. 

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7 hours ago, AnOrangeCat said:

Just to add a bit blood is often treated as a synonym for life both in and out of the Bible. It starts in Genesis and carries on into the New Testament.

That's was kind of my point. Also people swear the blood of Christ to get blessings. I don't think it's a magical means. The life of Christ was given. The blood was to point that out.

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