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25 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

As for setting up the 'image' I believe I can, but for 'placing a nuke',  I can't find anything. 

So you believe the armed forces will set up an image that will cause desolation? You believe an image will cause great tribulation, the likes of which has never been seen? 

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Just an example to show what I am trying to put forth in the conversation...NOT BIBLICALLY CORRECT


Let's say you are in and amongst a bunch of people who are worshipping God.  Everyone around you has been made alive through faith in the Lord and blessings are flowing down from God.  The land is happy, the weather is great, there is much brotherly love and charity. Sure, there are some persecutions that come with it but they are nothing compared to what you know is in the future it hardly seems worth dwelling on.   

Along comes someone who  really really hates that whole scene thinking they are better than Christ.  So he starts recruiting and placing people in and around them by making them great promises of wealth and goods go in and who start causing divisions with lies everywhere.  

One day there is a big crisis and everything is about to completely fall apart and the guy who did the recruiting in the first place comes and fixes up everything to what seems better than it ever was.  As he is doing that all his people are convincing the other people that he is their true savior come just for that.  So the people seeing all the good and miraculous works have no problem when he brings in 'an image' of himself, and when going into the store to get supplies they have to bow down for a second in an act of worship.  They are all doing so and life is going really well and now EVERYONE is convincing EVERYONE from everywhere that he is the real thing.  Sure there are those 'crazies' who once in a while run around talking about him being a big old fake and warning them they are going to lose everything when the real Saviour returns,  but it is so apparent that this guy who made everything better, can perform miracles and wonders THAT THEY CAN SEE and experience is the real thing,  they are nothing but happy when the 2 biggest loud mouths are finally killed. 


BACK to what was going on at the beginning.  What happened to all the love and worship they were giving to God when THE FAKE came?   What happened to all the prayers that were going to God.  They have VANISHED.  

The place has become DESOLATE, a waste BECAUSE shortly they are going to find out it is ALL A LIE.  

It DOESN'T TAKE A NUKE to make a place desolate WHEN it comes to the SPIRITUAL things.  ALL IT TAKES ARE LIES AND DECEPTION and all those too ignorant to know they are doing so.  

 

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


In the 'example' set forth for the purpose of explaining, WE ARE THE CRAZIES the world can't stand because we have the truth of what is really happening.  


 


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5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So you believe the armed forces will set up an image that will cause desolation? You believe an image will cause great tribulation, the likes of which has never been seen? 

DON'T YOU understand the BILLIONS of SOULS that will be deceived. 

 The GREAT ness of it ISN'T IN INTENSITY it is in QUANTITY

THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE DECEIVED.  Not just Adam and Eve.  Not just Gods people but EVERYONE.

Think about it.  We aren't to EVEN FEAR DEATH OF THE FLESH.  So WHAT could be so bad in the way of PHYSICAL persecution that has never happened before?


NOTHING.  


People have been being killed FOR EVER.  Can't die in ways worse than people have already died.  Can't be tortured in way people haven been tortured.  Can't be persecuted in ways that haven't happened before.  

BUT NEVER HAS IT INVOLVED THE WHOLE WORLD.  

THAT is the GREAT problem.  And if you think  Satan's deception is going to be worse on us THAN GODS WRATH FALLING ON THEM, you should check it out more closely AND NOT WITH THE THOUGHTS OF THE PRE TRIB CROWD as they not only got the timing wrong about the return of Christ they got the who Tribulation wrong.  

In my opinion anyhow.  


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4 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Just an example to show what I am trying to put forth in the conversation...NOT BIBLICALLY CORRECT


Let's say you are in and amongst a bunch of people who are worshipping God.  Everyone around you has been made alive through faith in the Lord and blessings are flowing down from God.  The land is happy, the weather is great, there is much brotherly love and charity. Sure, there are some persecutions that come with it but they are nothing compared to what you know is in the future it hardly seems worth dwelling on.   

Along comes someone who  really really hates that whole scene thinking they are better than Christ.  So he starts recruiting and placing people in and around them by making them great promises of wealth and goods go in and who start causing divisions with lies everywhere.  

One day there is a big crisis and everything is about to completely fall apart and the guy who did the recruiting in the first place comes and fixes up everything to what seems better than it ever was.  As he is doing that all his people are convincing the other people that he is their true savior come just for that.  So the people seeing all the good and miraculous works have no problem when he brings in 'an image' of himself, and when going into the store to get supplies they have to bow down for a second in an act of worship.  They are all doing so and life is going really well and now EVERYONE is convincing EVERYONE from everywhere that he is the real thing.  Sure there are those 'crazies' who once in a while run around talking about him being a big old fake and warning them they are going to lose everything when the real Saviour returns,  but it is so apparent that this guy who made everything better, can perform miracles and wonders THAT THEY CAN SEE and experience is the real thing,  they are nothing but happy when the 2 biggest loud mouths are finally killed. 


BACK to what was going on at the beginning.  What happened to all the love and worship they were giving to God when THE FAKE came?   What happened to all the prayers that were going to God.  They have VANISHED.  

The place has become DESOLATE, a waste BECAUSE shortly they are going to find out it is ALL A LIE.  

It DOESN'T TAKE A NUKE to make a place desolate WHEN it comes to the SPIRITUAL things.  ALL IT TAKES ARE LIES AND DECEPTION and all those too ignorant to know they are doing so.  

 

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


In the 'example' set forth for the purpose of explaining, WE ARE THE CRAZIES the world can't stand because we have the truth of what is really happening.  


 

About 70 percent of the people in Israel are atheist. Yes there are some in Israel who follow the teaching of the Pharisees but only 2 percent actually worship God and believe in Christ. And most of those are Arabs. I'm not sure where you get that everyone in Israel worship God. 

It's like God told Samuel when Israel wanted a king. God said "I will be your king", and the people said no, we want a king like the gentiles have. God told Samuel they reject me. Therefore Samuel warned the people of Israel, the king you chose will take the best fields for himself and you children shall serve him and pull his chariots. Then he will make you his slaves. The Lord said when they cry to me, I will not hear them. 

Today Israel is happy with thier goverment they have chosen to have. They worship the symbol of thier king they have chosen. 

Very soon they will become his slave just as Samuel said. 


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3 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

DON'T YOU understand the BILLIONS of SOULS that will be deceived. 

 The GREAT ness of it ISN'T IN INTENSITY it is in QUANTITY

THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE DECEIVED.  Not just Adam and Eve.  Not just Gods people but EVERYONE.

Think about it.  We aren't to EVEN FEAR DEATH OF THE FLESH.  So WHAT could be so bad in the way of PHYSICAL persecution that has never happened before?


NOTHING.  


People have been being killed FOR EVER.  Can't die in ways worse than people have already died.  Can't be tortured in way people haven been tortured.  Can't be persecuted in ways that haven't happened before.  

BUT NEVER HAS IT INVOLVED THE WHOLE WORLD.  

THAT is the GREAT problem.  And if you think  Satan's deception is going to be worse on us THAN GODS WRATH FALLING ON THEM, you should check it out more closely AND NOT WITH THE THOUGHTS OF THE PRE TRIB CROWD as they not only got the timing wrong about the return of Christ they got the who Tribulation wrong.  

In my opinion anyhow.  

The abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north. 

It's not placed in the north. 


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1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north. 

It's not placed in the north. 

I never said it was.  


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6 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

. I'm not sure where you get that everyone in Israel worship God. 

Where did I say that?


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22 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Where did I say that?

The story you told. 


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35 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I never said it was.  

You was talking about the whole world being deceived. 

The abomination that causes desolation in jerusalem does not cause the whoke world tribulation. Jesus said those who are in Judea will flee to the mountains. You honestly believe someone in Alaska should flee to the mountains because of something the millitary places in Jerusalem? 

PS, I have a nephew in that military. And my niece's husband was in the last war with the south. I know what our military will do to those nations which attack Jerusalem. They are not going to give them an image. They will pulverize them. 

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54 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The story you told. 

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding,  I thought I made it clear that was just a story.  

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