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3 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

This concept of one law for Israel and gentile is used in many places in scripture not just in the Passover context.

'One ordinance [shall be] for you of the assembly and for the stranger who dwells [with you], an ordinance forever throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD. 'One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.' " - Num 15:15-16 NKJV

'You shall have the same law for the stranger and for one from your own country; for I [am] the LORD your God.' " - Lev 24:22 NKJV

Yes, that is true. But...it is always in the same context as this isn't it?

Law regarding various sacrifices, one law concerning each.


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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Yes, that is true. But...it is always in the same context as this isn't it?

Law regarding various sacrifices, one law concerning each.

Regardless if it is in reference to a sin offering or Passover or anything else, it is still one law for Israel and foreigner that dwells among them.

When Israel came out of Egypt it says a mixed multitude of people came out with them.  Israel is not comprised of just natural born Israelites but people of other nations as well.  In fact Caleb one of two men that was allowed to enter promised land was not a natural born Israelite but was from a Canaanite family.

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1 minute ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Regardless if it is in reference to a sin offering or Passover or anything else, it is still one law for Israel and foreigner that dwells among them.

When Israel came out of Egypt it says a mixed multitude of people came out with them.  Israel is not comprised of just natural born Israelites but people of other nations as well.  In fact Caleb one two men that was allowed to enter promised land was not a natural born Israelite but was from a Canaanite family.

What one law? The one law of eating the passover sacrifice is be no different than one who is born a Jew. A foreigner did not have to become circumcised to bring an offering.

 


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5 hours ago, Anne2 said:

What one law? The one law of eating the passover sacrifice is be no different than one who is born a Jew. A foreigner did not have to become circumcised to bring an offering.

 

In order for them to keep Passover it was required for them to be circumcised.

And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. - Exo 12:48-49 KJV

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13 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

In order for them to keep Passover it was required for them to be circumcised.

 for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. - Exo 12:48-49 KJV

Already agreed. It was the one law concerning the Passover sacrifice. Only a Jew could eat the passover sacrifice.


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6 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Already agreed. It was the one law concerning the Passover sacrifice. Only a Jew could eat the passover sacrifice.

Please stop twisting scriptures.  It says in several places that there shall be one law for both Israel and foreigner and its not just in context to the Passover. 

Furthermore, not all Israel were considered Jews.  The term Jew did not come about until after Israel was split into 2 kingdoms.  The norther 10 tribes of Israel were never considered Jews only the Southern Kingdom (Kingdom of Judea) of Israel.


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5 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Please stop twisting scriptures.  It says in several places that there shall be one law for both Israel and foreigner and its not just in context to the Passover

How did I twist scripture? No uncircumcised person was to eat of it. That was the one law concerning the passover. He was to be considered as one that had been born a Jew, circumcised the eighth day. He was obligated to circumcise all the males in his household etc.

 

1 hour ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Furthermore, not all Israel were considered Jews.  The term Jew did not come about until after Israel was split into 2 kingdoms.  The norther 10 tribes of Israel were never considered Jews only the Southern Kingdom (Kingdom of Judea) of Israel.

In using the term Jew, I am using it in the way the new covenant speaks of the circumcision. 

Why does this matter? 


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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Anne2 said:

How did I twist scripture? No uncircumcised person was to eat of it. That was the one law concerning the passover. He was to be considered as one that had been born a Jew, circumcised the eighth day. He was obligated to circumcise all the males in his household etc.

When it says "one law" for both Israel and foreign it is specifically saying in Hebrew "one torah" or "echad torah".  Torah is a direct reference to entirety of the Law of God that Moses received.  If it had said "echad tasvah" or "one command" then you might have an a argument because that refers to a specific command or order, but this is not the case in any of the references regarding one Torah for both Israel and foreigner.

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10 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

When it says "one law" for both Israel and foreign it is specifically saying in Hebrew "one torah" or "echad torah".  Torah is a direct reference to entirety of the Law of God that Moses received.  If it had said "echad tasvah" or "one command" then you might an argument because that refers to a specific command or order, but this is not the case in any of the references regarding one Torah for both Israel and foreigner.

Le 6:9  Command Aaron and his sons, saying, This is the law of the burnt offering:

Le 6:14  And this is the law of the meat offering: 

Le 6:25 This is the law of the sin offering: 

Le 7:1  Likewise this is the law of the trespass offering:

Le 7:11  And this is the law of the sacrifice of peace offerings,

On and on it goes.

The law of the Passover, No uncircumcised person shall eat of it.

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1 hour ago, Slibhin said:

We're not trying to convince you to be Jewish, YOU are trying to convince US to be Christians.

Ban me, insult me, do what you want. I don't care anymore. My only concern is why my husband ever had an account here because G-d only knows what was being put into his head.

I'm still trying to figure out why Christians don't go to synagogues.

“I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. (John 18:20)

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