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LETTER OF JUDE (Part 1)

THEME: the false teachers: how to identify them, the hazard of their doctrine and how we should position in order to fight them.
Introduction
As you will see in this study, the preoccupation of Jude was with the false teachers. Pay attention, for instance, in how Jude introduced himself to the recipients of this epistle:
    
    • Jud 1:1 -> “Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are called, beloved in God the Father, and kept for Jesus Christ:”.

We can know someone very well for what they speak about themselves. See that Jude is brother of James. Therefore, this Jude was the brother of Jesus (Mark 6:3). However, He claimed only to be servant of Jesus and was content of being the second in importance (under James, his brother).

The recipient of this letter is unknown. Whoever they were, Jude looked on them as:

Called -> They weren’t gatecrashers, but was invited to Jesus. For you have an idea of the importance of this, see below:

    • Mat 15:12,13 -> “Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up.”.

Beloved in God -> They weren’t beloved because they were illustrious before the society, but only because they were in God, the Father.

Kept for Jesus Christ -> They were kept from falling in the faith for the sake of Christ, and not for our benefit. And who did this weren’t the pastors, but Jesus in person. Although we need to cooperate so that the faith of the brothers can be sound, many religious leaders take on this responsibility alone, what is a terrible mistake.

For these three characteristics that Jude see in the believers, we can conclude that, the false teachers:

1 – aren’t called by Jesus (as Paul, for instance – Rom 1:1; 1Cor 1:1; 2Cor 1:1; Gal 1:1; Eph 1:1; Col 1:1; 1Tim 1:1; 2Tim 1:1). They become teachers in virtue of some carnal methods. For instance: 

    a) Doing a theological faculty or seminary;
    b) Being anointed or elected by religious leaders of superior degree;
    c) Being consecrated by media.
  
2 – are beloved, not for God the Father, for the fans and for the expectation of the profit that they can bring to the giants of the gospel world.

3 – are kept, not by Jesus Christ (from the sin and corruption of the world), but by the false gods from the vicissitudes of this life and this, for some time, because the triumphing of the wicked is short – Job 20:5).

Have a good day. Tomorrow we will carry on.
 


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57 minutes ago, Leonardo Von said:

b) Being anointed or elected by religious leaders of superior degree;

So just to be clear, you do not accept: apostolic succession? I have been a member of the Episcopal and the Methodist Church. (My wife is Methodist) They both accept apostolic succession, although the Episcopal church actually has the Bishop lay on hands and pray for new members. 

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2 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

Whoa, slow down there, Buckaroo. Both James and Jude were stepbrothers of Jesus. The difference is when Joseph and Mary got married, Jude was older and James was only 12. So Mary raised James & Jesus together and took care of them. Although he was 12 years older than Jesus, so they could not have been that close. 

That is a Catholic false teaching.  There is no scriptural evidence that Joseph was married prior to Mary.  Catholics like to teach that Jesus was the only child of Mary in doctrine of Mary's Perpetual Virginity.  Meaning she never had sexual relations with Joseph and any other children were from a previous marriage by Joseph. No scriptural evidence to support these claims.  Catholics like to teach Mary is the divine Mother of Heaven aka goddess and if she had other children they would be divine like Jesus.  Clearly and plainly false.  Jesus's source of divinity does not derive from Mary.  

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52 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

That is Catholic false teaching. 

The Infancy Gospel / Although this gospel never appeared as a part of the canon, it was never officially declared to be heretical.

The virgin birth is very much in the Bible. 

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Origen mentions the Book of James (and the Gospel of Peter) as stating that the ' brethren of the Lord' were sons of Joseph by a former wife. 

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22 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

The Infancy Gospel / Although this gospel never appeared as a part of the canon, it was never officially declared to be heretical.

The virgin birth is very much in the Bible. 

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

No body is disputing that Jesus was conceived by a virgin (Mary), but the false teaching that Mary remained a virgin forever (RCC Perpetual Virginity Doctrine) and never had sexual relations with Joseph afterwards, hence had no other children, is clearly a made up doctrine.  Scriptures clearly show that Jesus had other siblings (brothers and sisters).

There are a lot catholic forged documents such as the Infancy gospel and a good reason why they are not a part of the cannon.

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9 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

is clearly a made up doctrine. 

We do not know if it is "made up" because we have no conclusive evidence one way or the other. The Bible (Moses) clearly tells us that we are given 70 - 80 years. If Joseph died early, then I want to know why he was not given the same 70 years that everyone else is given. How did Joseph die and how old was Joseph, when he died? 


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16 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

The idea that Mary dedicated her life to serve God and remain a virgin is very scriptural. Jesus and Paul both say it is better to remain single and dedicate ourself to serve God. But that is not the gift everyone has. 

Matthew 19:10 His disciples said to Him, “If this is the case between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11“Not everyone can accept this word,” He replied, “but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way; others were made that way by men; and still others live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

Did Mary dedicate her life to God in this way? Some people say yes, some people say no.  It makes sense that she did and that Jesus was raised with this teaching. As Paul also teaches, it is better to remain single. 

Mary was not a single women, she was a married woman, married to Joseph.  None of that applies.

16 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

I am not going to attack my brothers and sisters in the Lord, they way you are. I thought this was a Christian forum and all Christians were welcome and accepted here. There are a lot of former Catholics in the Episcopal church. So I have heard the anti-Catholic rhetoric that you like to promote. It is not my place to judge them one way or the other, if I agree with them or not. 

I am not attacking anyone personally.  I am confronting a doctrine that is clearly not scriptural, that you seem to be promoting.  Yes everyone has a right to their opinion and believe whatever, but that does not make it factual or scriptural.  If you are Christian you support scriptural truth not made-up doctrines of men that lead people into error.

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6 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

I am confronting a doctrine that is clearly not scriptural,

By all means, show me where it is NOT scriptural.  If you're going to make a claim, you have to back it up. 

The tradition of the perpetual virginity of Mary first clearly appears in a late 2nd century text called the Gospel of James.[12] It was established as orthodoxy at the Council of Ephesus in 431,[13] the Second Council of Constantinople in 553 gave her the title "Aeiparthenos", meaning Perpetual Virgin, and at the Lateran Synod of 649 Pope Martin I emphasized the threefold character of the perpetual virginity, before, during, and after the birth of Christ.[14] The Lutheran Smalcald Articles (1537) and the Reformed Second Helvetic Confession (1562) codified the doctrine of perpetual virginity of Mary as well.[15][3]`

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31 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

By all means, show me where it is NOT scriptural.  If you're going to make a claim, you have to back it up. 

Show me scriptures that states Mary remained a virgin forever?  Show me a scripture where Mary remained single as you stated?  Show me a scripture where Joseph had children from a previous marriage?   

These are claims you are making not me, the burden of proof falls on you.


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2 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Show me scriptures that states Mary remained a virgin forever?  Show me a scripture where Mary remained single as you stated?  Show me a scripture where Joseph had children from a previous marriage?   

These are claims you are making not me, the burden of proof falls on you.

I gave you the name of that book two or three times. You are the one that has nothing to show. 

The problem is, you miss the WHOLE point. Jesus HAD to be a "son" of Joseph to inherit the Kingdom of David. You already admit that Jesus was adopted by Joseph. You do not claim Joseph was his father. You just claim that Mary gave up her virginity after Jesus was born. Yet you have nothing to show this is true. When someone dedicates their life to God, it is for life. All the other girls were happy to leave the temple and start a family. Mary was different. She would not need John the Disciple to take care of her if she had son's and daughters of her own. 

 

John 19:25 Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother and her sister, as well as Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” So from that hour, this disciple took her into his home.

Jesus was 33. Mary was actually around 14. So 33 plus 14 is 47. Again, where is Joseph? If he was alive, it would have been his duty to claim the body of Jesus.  
 

5207 hyiós – properly, a son (by birth or adoption); (figuratively) anyone sharing the same nature as their Father. For the believer, becoming a son of God begins with being reborn (adopted) by the heavenly Father – through Christ (the work of the eternal Son). In the NT, 5207 /hyiós ("son") equally refers to female believers (Gal 3:28).

5207 /hyiós ("son") emphasizes likeness of the believer to the heavenly Father, i.e. resembling His character more and more by living in faith ("God's inwrought persuasons," see 4102 /pístis).

5207 /hyiós ("son") highlights the (legal) right to the Father's inheritance, i.e. as the believer lives in conformity with the Father's nature (purpose).

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