Ongoing Inner Conflict

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52 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

 

And there it is - both sides!  I sometimes look at it like a vehicle . . . everything is there, the wheels, the engine & transmission, all that is needed to get you there.  All that awesome power and ability is just waiting.  And only one thing needed: someone to turn the key and put 'er in gear!

Amen, that's where faith comes in!

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I like the "relocation" concept, it manifests something permanent has happened. Our primary place of relocation is heaven, which even is now and don't have to wait, because we're sure to be There later (Eph 2:6).

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Just now, WordSword said:

I like the "relocation" concept, it manifests something permanent has happened. Our primary place of relocation is heaven, which even is now and don't have to wait, because we're sure to be There later (Eph 2:6).

Amen---this is why it is so important to get it right because when we do, it can prevent much error.

The scriptural evidence of the reality of the work of the Cross, Resurrection and Ascension and our real time inclusion is over-whelming as the LOrd guided me to lay out.

There is a reason why Paul said what he did--I believe much of his daily teaching from town to town was just that.

The richness and ramifications of Christ's full work is just flat out amazing. The fullness. The completeness.

Our life is hidden with Christ in God. His Truth is like manna or a large loaf of bread. When we embrace to consume it, we are becoming what it IS.

There is an OP somewhere here about what to teach a new babe in Christ. This is how we disciple. Point them to Christ and let them see the Light in us.

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17 minutes ago, Alive said:

Amen---this is why it is so important to get it right because when we do, it can prevent much error.

If we are genuinely saved, we will eventually get it all right, for God will make certain of it. The first thing of course to get right is salvation, from there He ensures our salvation!

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6 minutes ago, WordSword said:

If we are genuinely saved, we will eventually get it all right, for God will make certain of it. The first thing of course to get right is salvation, from there He ensures our salvation!

Yes--but it is a function of the Body and its members to bring others along in a vitally healthy manner.

As the Lord allows opportunity, we can prevent much confusion and roadblocks.

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2 hours ago, Alive said:

Yes--but it is a function of the Body and its members to bring others along in a vitally healthy manner.

As the Lord allows opportunity, we can prevent much confusion and roadblocks.

True! I believe getting the right facts on spiritual-growth fundamentals is what is lacking the most generally in Christendom. It's going to be very slow because of prevalent false doctrines; but false doctrine cannot hurt a believer (Mat 24:24), just slow one down in their maturity. Reading Scripture often, esp. the NT which is where most of the growth truths lie, speeds up growth the most.

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15 hours ago, WordSword said:

True! I believe getting the right facts on spiritual-growth fundamentals is what is lacking the most generally in Christendom. It's going to be very slow because of prevalent false doctrines; but false doctrine cannot hurt a believer (Mat 24:24), just slow one down in their maturity. Reading Scripture often, esp. the NT which is where most of the growth truths lie, speeds up growth the most.

Yes…you have touched on much and I am blessed to hear from you, what I have learned and experienced.

Your signature says a lot. Where I have seen the lack over the years is an awareness of the reality of that Life within as a True organic ontological expression. The experience in that place, is quite different from a mental understanding of scripture, etc.

Said another way, The reality of a New Life is more than the change of mind that results from understanding limited in the mind. Both are required.

There is knowledge and there is experiential knowledge. Those without the latter, will not see this and will push back.

The Lord alone, knows.

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1 hour ago, Alive said:

Yes…you have touched on much and I am blessed to hear from you, what I have learned and experienced.

Your signature says a lot. Where I have seen the lack over the years is an awareness of the reality of that Life within as a True organic ontological expression. The experience in that place, is quite different from a mental understanding of scripture, etc.

Said another way, The reality of a New Life is more than the change of mind that results from understanding limited in the mind. Both are required.

There is knowledge and there is experiential knowledge. Those without the latter, will not see this and will push back.

The Lord alone, knows.

Appreciate you sharing that, and it's comforting to know that all reborn will grow in Christ, just at different levels. The most important to know is always the permanency of salvation, or there's nothing to grow on.  

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14 minutes ago, WordSword said:

Appreciate you sharing that, and it's comforting to know that all reborn will grow in Christ, just at different levels. The most important to know is always the permanency of salvation, or there's nothing to grow on.  

Amen, brother. Those that are truly In Christ are forever in Christ and get to share the reason for the Hope within us. We have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness and now reside hidden and safe with Christ in God.

This is so far beyond my comprehension, brother.