Dave-regenerated Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2022 I don't know what to make of Padre Pio because I am not Catholic. But he appears to have performed genuine miracles of healing and cast demons out of people, as well as having the Stigmata. I searched a lot online for any Protestant views of him and I found hardly anything. Why is that? Don't forget that Jesus said if satan casts out Satan (in demonic possession) that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And yet we see Padre Pio doing this, so that cannot be demonic if it's true. If you believe that Pio was demonically influenced or used, how do you explain his exorcisms? What do you have against him? I am not interested in the Skeptics' analysis of him, because I have read all the literature and their explanations are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,309 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,061 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dave-regenerated said: I don't know what to make of Padre Pio because I am not Catholic. But he appears to have performed genuine miracles of healing and cast demons out of people, as well as having the Stigmata. I searched a lot online for any Protestant views of him and I found hardly anything. Why is that? Don't forget that Jesus said if satan casts out Satan (in demonic possession) that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And yet we see Padre Pio doing this, so that cannot be demonic if it's true. If you believe that Pio was demonically influenced or used, how do you explain his exorcisms? What do you have against him? I am not interested in the Skeptics' analysis of him, because I have read all the literature and their explanations are wrong. That's not what Jesus said... he said attaching the work of the Holy Spirit to satan was blasphemy. If satan casts out satan, then satan can't win in the long run. However, I might just add that I have experienced demons leaving a person by someone who was not spirit filled, just to spoof the person to thinking they had authority they didn't possess. It ended up badly for both the exorcised and the exorcist. I won't go into what I think about the Catholic way or exorcising someone, but it's not biblical. Humans have no authority in the spirit world at all. When we deal with the spirit world we do so with the authority of the Holy Spirit within us.... or we don't do it with authority at all. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted November 22, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 778 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,958 Content Per Day: 3.03 Reputation: 1,986 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Dave-regenerated said: I don't know what to make of Padre Pio because I am not Catholic. But he appears to have performed genuine miracles of healing and cast demons out of people, as well as having the Stigmata. I searched a lot online for any Protestant views of him and I found hardly anything. Why is that? Don't forget that Jesus said if satan casts out Satan (in demonic possession) that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And yet we see Padre Pio doing this, so that cannot be demonic if it's true. If you believe that Pio was demonically influenced or used, how do you explain his exorcisms? What do you have against him? I am not interested in the Skeptics' analysis of him, because I have read all the literature and their explanations are wrong. The 2nd beast of Revelation Will call fire from heaven in front of people so what can i say ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-regenerated Posted November 22, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 23 hours ago, other one said: That's not what Jesus said... he said attaching the work of the Holy Spirit to satan was blasphemy. If satan casts out satan, then satan can't win in the long run. However, I might just add that I have experienced demons leaving a person by someone who was not spirit filled, just to spoof the person to thinking they had authority they didn't possess. It ended up badly for both the exorcised and the exorcist. I won't go into what I think about the Catholic way or exorcising someone, but it's not biblical. Humans have no authority in the spirit world at all. When we deal with the spirit world we do so with the authority of the Holy Spirit within us.... or we don't do it with authority at all. Jesus said that if you equate a demonic possession with devils casting out devils instead of God doing it, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I'm really sorry, but when you say, "that's not what Jesus said" either you misunderstood what I already explained or you are attempting to disagree with me for some odd reason. Some anecdote about a person that is not supposed to be "spirit filled" (Whatever THAT means!) attempting to do an exorcism that failed really isn't evidence at all, it is some eyewitness testimony only that could be mistaken. It's interesting to me that you talk about the Holy Spirit being within Christians which basically just means you contradicted yourself. I'll be up front and honest with you - your response addressed nothing in my OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-regenerated Posted November 22, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 hours ago, R. Hartono said: The 2nd beast of Revelation Will call fire from heaven in front of people so what can i say ? Your response makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I said and the topic of the conversation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted November 23, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 481 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,584 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 7,665 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 23, 2022 I don't know his views on Jesus. Jesus said I never knew you to those who will say we cast out devil's and work miracles in your name. If he worship Mary that would be a red flag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-regenerated Posted November 25, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 5:02 AM, Wayne222 said: I don't know his views on Jesus. Jesus said I never knew you to those who will say we cast out devil's and work miracles in your name. If he worship Mary that would be a red flag. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted November 25, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,830 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,820 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 9:55 AM, Dave-regenerated said: I don't know what to make of Padre Pio because I am not Catholic. But he appears to have performed genuine miracles of healing and cast demons out of people, as well as having the Stigmata. I searched a lot online for any Protestant views of him and I found hardly anything. Why is that? Don't forget that Jesus said if satan casts out Satan (in demonic possession) that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And yet we see Padre Pio doing this, so that cannot be demonic if it's true. If you believe that Pio was demonically influenced or used, how do you explain his exorcisms? What do you have against him? I am not interested in the Skeptics' analysis of him, because I have read all the literature and their explanations are wrong. I do not believe in people exhibiting a "stigmata". They take Paul's words about "bearing the marks of Christ" and twist them to a lie and claim that they "bleed". That's not what Paul was talking about at ALL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-regenerated Posted November 25, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jayne said: I do not believe in people exhibiting a "stigmata". They take Paul's words about "bearing the marks of Christ" and twist them to a lie and claim that they "bleed". That's not what Paul was talking about at ALL!! I didn't say that, but it doesn't matter much. Mary worship is always a bad thing to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted November 25, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,830 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,820 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave-regenerated said: I didn't say that, but it doesn't matter much. Mary worship is always a bad thing to me. Oh, I didn't mean you were saying it. I was telling that others say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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