US President Supports World Vaccine Passport

[Not of the World]

15 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

What happens when the government and big pharma is telling the doctors what they are allowed and not allowed to do? 

Many government officials in the CDC and the NIH are paid commissions by pharmaceuticals (and others) and it's all perfectly legal and they're not required to disclose who is paying them and how much they're being paid.  

Why did Fauci (and others) approve MILLIONS being given to a Chinese military bioweapons lab?  And why do they continue to do so?  And how much is Fauci (and others) being paid in return for those substantial, financial, gift to the Chinese Communist Party?  

[other one]

7 hours ago, Sparks said:

It's called Died Suddenly if you want to look it up yourself

I've read it and still decided to go with personal experience.

[JimmyB]

9 hours ago, Not of the World said:

Do you believe that medical professionals should legally be able to prescribe puberty blockers and give hysterectomies to little girls that believe that they are male?  That's already happening.  Where is the "measure of safety built into the medical system" that you speak of?

This nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply.

[JimmyB]

18 hours ago, other one said:

https://www.cbs17.com/community/health/coronavirus/fact-check-are-more-vaccinated-people-now-dying-of-covid-19-than-unvaccinated/

 

RALEIGH, N.C. (WNCN) — Are more fully vaccinated people dying of COVID-19 these days than unvaccinated people?

That’s what a new chart making the rounds on social media appears to show.

But it’s easy to misinterpret what it’s actually telling you.

It’s based on CDC data at the national level and plots the number of COVID-19 deaths each week by people who are either fully vaccinated or unvaccinated.

It shows that, for the past few months, more fully vaccinated people have in fact died of COVID than have unvaccinated people — which is noted by the black (vaccinated) line moving higher than the blue (unvaccinated) one at some unspecified point after February.

https://www.cbs17.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2022/08/Fauhwt7UEAAXQGS.jpg?w=817 (Source: CDC)

But Dr. David Weber, an infectious disease specialist at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, says that chart is missing one very important piece of information and context: Age.

 

“Most of the cases we’re seeing now of deaths … many of them are in older people,” Weber said. “The majority of older people, in particular — because of their risks for COVID — are vaccinated. So it’s not surprising if the majority of people are vaccinated. Even if the vaccines are working, the majority of deaths will be in people who are vaccinated.”

That’s why at the state level, the comparison in the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services weekly report includes a key phrase — “age-adjusted.”

https://www.cbs17.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2022/08/Screen-Shot-2022-08-24-at-10.24.34-AM.png?w=900 (Source: NCDHHS)

“The real question is not what percentage of deaths or hospitalization are in vaccinated or an unvaccinated?” Weber said. “It’s by age. What’s the risk of death in vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals?”

Taking that into account, the death rate for unvaccinated people remains significantly higher than it is for vaccinated and for boosted, once those figures are adjusted for age.

 

According to NCDHHS, unvaccinated people in mid-to-late July and early August were nearly 10 times more likely to die of COVID-19 than boosted people were.

It’s also important to keep in mind that the chart compares the unvaccinated with the fully vaccinated — but makes no mention of those who have received booster shots.

Those who received both doses of the primary series a year ago — or more — are most likely dealing with a drop in immunity that a booster shot can fix, Weber says.

And it could only be a matter of weeks before new booster shots that specifically target the omicron subvariants could be available — welcome news for people who received their first booster shot but so far are not yet eligible for a second one.

 

“So that’s really the question that you need to ask is, vaccinated versus unvaccinated? What age group? And then, did you have two, three or four doses?” Weber said.

Vaccine opponents have latched onto the chart as evidence that the shots don’t work.

Weber says it’s incredibly easy to misread that chart and come to the wrong conclusion.

“It’s all depending on how you use statistics,” he said, comparing it further to deaths in automobile wrecks.

 

“It’s like the majority of people who die in a car crash were wearing a seatbelt, right?” Weber said. “Because almost everyone wears a seatbelt.”

Twitter?  You're joking.  It has always been full of crazies and now with Musk at the helm it's even worse.  I stick to reliable sources of information.

[Sparks]

3 hours ago, other one said:

I've read it and still decided to go with personal experience.

It's a documentary meaning, it is filmed.  They actually show you as they drag this stuff out of dead people. 

They open up an artery, and pull out large fibrous clots that look rubbery and white.  These fiber clots are abnormal.  You get to hear them say that they (with 40 years of experience or whatever) have never seen this before the mRNA vaccine program.  One says you would not notice them on medical scans, but would only notice them if a doctor directly opened the artery.  One guy had all the symptoms of clots, but they used an infrared camera to spot the blockages.

You sure you don't even want to look?

[other one]

1 hour ago, JimmyB said:

Twitter?  You're joking.  It has always been full of crazies and now with Musk at the helm it's even worse.  I stick to reliable sources of information.

Yes, just ignore CBS.....   You're a real hoot Jimmy.

[other one]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

It's a documentary meaning, it is filmed.  They actually show you as they drag this stuff out of dead people. 

They open up an artery, and pull out large fibrous clots that look rubbery and white.  These fiber clots are abnormal.  You get to hear them say that they (with 40 years of experience or whatever) have never seen this before the mRNA vaccine program.  One says you would not notice them on medical scans, but would only notice them if a doctor directly opened the artery.  One guy had all the symptoms of clots, but they used an infrared camera to spot the blockages.

You sure you don't even want to look?

Do they explain how the vaccine causes it and is it in everyone or a few, or maybe those that have had the vaccine along with other things...   Like I told you earlier I have friends in the embalming business telling me that they saw things of this nature before the vaccine was released, so I'm questioning if the vaccine is really causing it, and since several billion people have had the vaccines how come hundreds of millions of people are not dead over it.    Total number of deaths went up starting in about 2020 when folks started dying from Covid. 

Keep reaching though and maybe some day you can see that both sides of the question are using people to say things that are not proven to advance their agendas. 2021 went up another 100 thousand or so, but so far this year it will be down about 100 thousand lower than 2020 when the pandemic started.   We should have a huge numbers of deaths if the vaccine is any problem that is lethal.
I do agree it does cause some heart inflation in some young people that is treatable and is worth the risk not to have the virus without having the vaccine.

[JimmyB]

22 minutes ago, other one said:

Yes, just ignore CBS.....   You're a real hoot Jimmy.

Thanks for the compliment!

[Rick-Parker]

2 hours ago, JimmyB said:

This nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply.

You don't believe that it is happening? Children's hospitals have even posted that they do it on their websites.

[JimmyB]

5 minutes ago, Rick-Parker said:

You don't believe that it is happening? Children's hospitals have even posted that they do it on their websites.

You don't think that there is a measure of safety built into the medical system?  Everyone in the field of medicine must be qualified to practice, including annual recertification, and must follow the laws 100%.  There is federal and state oversight at every level.  If you can't discuss things rationally, why are you here?