WorthyNews:Biden Says He Wants Congress To Pass Gun Control In Lame-Duck Session

[The_Patriot21]

11 hours ago, Sparks said:

I am glad you think you know every conceivable situation that can happen when defending your life with a gun, but I don't think you do. 

Thanks for the comment. 

Funny, one could say the same about you. I was just pointing out if the guy is willing to flee before you pull the trigger then he really wasn't intending harm in the first place

[kwikphilly]

13 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Funny, one could say the same about you. I was just pointing out if the guy is willing to flee before you pull the trigger then he really wasn't intending harm in the first place

You know what's funny to me Pat,there is so much " gun" violence in NYC where it is ILLEGAL to possess a handgun!!!!! I think people really need to take a good look at statistics,per capita!

I'm with you 1000percent and you know how I feel about hunting for sport,which you DO NOT do,- you do eat your kill which I'm not a big fan of either btw but hey,we are just different there but I do understand - me,I've got a hard enough time eating chickens ,& pigs but I'm a little kooky anyway,lol

What I am a big fan of is the United States Constitution and protecting our rights,take away 1( any 1) and we will be like every other Socialist Country on the planet soon afterward( or Communist?) .But we are not,we are a Democracy and I still stand for the flag(& kneel for the Cross)Praise Jesus!

Even our Lord Jesus Apostles carried swords,at least Peter did. .. we ,people,have always had the right to defend ourselves and there has also always been murderers and violence long before guns came into the picture....

Maybe biden should lead by example and leave home without his secret service,or tell them not to carry guns and leave the rest of us alone!

[other one]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

It depends on your training, and the situation.

Unless you have been through something like the police academy, you don't touch a weapon until you have already decided to use it and when that decision is made, hesitation can get you killed.    If you are within 4 feet of me holding a handgun, and not using it, I can take it away from you and you can't stop me.   Training I have received from professionals.   Likewise I could not stop you from doing so to me should you have that knowledge....   so I don't intend to hesitate.

[The_Patriot21]

13 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

You know what's funny to me Pat,there is so much " gun" violence in NYC where it is ILLEGAL to possess a handgun!!!!! I think people really need to take a good look at statistics,per capita!

I'm with you 1000percent and you know how I feel about hunting for sport,which you DO NOT do,- you do eat your kill which I'm not a big fan of either btw but hey,we are just different there but I do understand - me,I've got a hard enough time eating chickens ,& pigs but I'm a little kooky anyway,lol

What I am a big fan of is the United States Constitution and protecting our rights,take away 1( any 1) and we will be like every other Socialist Country on the planet soon afterward( or Communist?) .But we are not,we are a Democracy and I still stand for the flag(& kneel for the Cross)Praise Jesus!

Even our Lord Jesus Apostles carried swords,at least Peter did. .. we ,people,have always had the right to defend ourselves and there has also always been murderers and violence long before guns came into the picture....

Maybe biden should lead by example and leave home without his secret service,or tell them not to carry guns and leave the rest of us alone!

Exactly. What most people forget is the second amendment wasn't put in place for self defense or for hunting. That reason is why the government is working so hard to abolish it.

[The_Patriot21]

4 minutes ago, other one said:

Unless you have been through something like the police academy, you don't touch a weapon until you have already decided to use it and when that decision is made, hesitation can get you killed.    If you are within 4 feet of me holding a handgun, and not using it, I can take it away from you and you can't stop me.   Training I have received from professionals.   Likewise I could not stop you from doing so to me should you have that knowledge....   so I don't intend to hesitate.

Pretty sound advice. If the perp runs while I'm in the process of drawing my gun, then he can run I won't shoot. But if he's still there when the gun is out and ready to shoot them I'm pulling the trigger.

Life isn't like the movies.... put your hands up rarely works.

[kwikphilly]

8 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Pretty sound advice. If the perp runs while I'm in the process of drawing my gun, then he can run I won't shoot. But if he's still there when the gun is out and ready to shoot them I'm pulling the trigger.

Life isn't like the movies.... put your hands up rarely works.

Yes,If you're going to draw your weapon you must be prepared to fire it- or don't own one!!!!

[farouk]

9 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Yes,If you're going to draw your weapon you must be prepared to fire it- or don't own one!!!!

@kwikphilly Leaving aside politics, a similar comment could be made about using 'the sword of the Spirit', the Word of God.... (Ephesians 6).

[kwikphilly]

25 minutes ago, other one said:

Unless you have been through something like the police academy, you don't touch a weapon until you have already decided to use it and when that decision is made, hesitation can get you killed.    If you are within 4 feet of me holding a handgun, and not using it, I can take it away from you and you can't stop me.   Training I have received from professionals.   Likewise I could not stop you from doing so to me should you have that knowledge....   so I don't intend to hesitate.

Exactly,- my first profession was one I had to take an oath to do no harm- the 2nd I was taught to use deadly physical force & trained to discern when it was applicable and lawful ... Not easy

Police Academy is thorough but still nothing like the streets- a perp with a gun is unpredictable and 9 times out of 10 the gun is illegal and they are in unlawful possession. .   Criminals have no training,they just don't want to be caught and will not hesitate to fire- often results in hurting innocent bystanders,they are a menace but the gun isn't the problem- they are.

Just my 2 cents

Edited November 28, 2022 by kwikphilly

[farouk]

2 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Exactly,- my first profession was one I had to take an oath to do no harm- the 2nd I was taught to use deadly physical force & trained to discern when it was applicable and lawful ... Not easy

Police Academy is thorough but still nothing like the streets- a perp with a gun is unpredictable and 9 times out of 10 the gun is illegal and they are in unlawful possession. .   Criminals have no training,they just don't want to be caught and will not hesitate to fire- often results in hurting innocent bystanders,they are a menace but the gun isn't the problem- they are.

Just my 2 cents

@kwikphilly So you were a police officer? you are very experienced at life.........

[The_Patriot21]

Just now, farouk said:

@kwikphilly So you were a police officer? you are very experienced at life.........

She doesn't have to, she just has to know how to do something many people dont-something I've harped on in this very thread, and that's turn off the TV and look at the real world. She knows how to do actual research think through her views before sharing them, creating well thought out arguments supporting her views.

She doesn't need to mock, insult, or put people down to get her point across. Which is why I enjoy debating with her, because while we don't always agree, I at least know where she's coming from because she understands basic debate skills, something many people in the world and even on this very forum, lack.