Man was in Pangaea

[WilliamL]

On 1/29/2023 at 9:55 PM, dad2 said:

On 1/29/2023 at 9:04 PM, WilliamL said:

You put Jewish tradition above the chronology of Genesis 11?? 

What is fantasy is believing that the earth is 4 billion years old!

Explain about Gen 11 and why it says that Noah could not have lived at the same time as Abraham? If so then the tradition is wrong.

Noah did live during the early years of Abraham, because Noah lived for 350 years after the flood. Whereas Abraham was born 291 years after the flood.

[dad2]

37 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

Noah did live during the early years of Abraham, because Noah lived for 350 years after the flood. Whereas Abraham was born 291 years after the flood.

Great so that is confirmation. I don't see too many skeptics saying they Abraham (the father of 3 major religions) never lived or lived millions of years ago. Since he and Noah probably chatted, all we need is the time from Adam to Noah to pin an age on earth

[Guest]

15 hours ago, dad2 said:

I know a year was 360 days. It will be 360 days again in the future. Today it is 365 days or so. How do we get from A to B by changing spin or rotation?

I've read that before. It's is called a prophetic year or Biblical year. I believe it comes from Daniel, not Moses or Noah.

15 hours ago, dad2 said:

The bible makes it clear in Noah's day by the time the ark landed and etc. A year was 360 days.

Prove it.

[dad2]

13 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

I've read that before. It's is called a prophetic year or Biblical year. I believe it comes from Daniel, not Moses or Noah.

Prove it.

Do I detect some hostility here? Anyhow, OK.

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In Genesis 7:11 we are told:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (Genesis 7:11)

This verse pinpoints ONE VERY SPECIFIC DAY! It was Month 2, Day 17 of Noah's 600th year. Such dating obviously implies a calendar.

A few verses later we are told:

And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days. (Genesis 7:24)

Here we have A VERY SPECIFIC AND LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME. It was exactly 150 days. This is repeated a few verses later.

And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated. (Genesis 8:3)

The very next verse then again pinpoints ONE VERY SPECIFIC DAY! It was Month 7, Day 17.

And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. (Genesis 8:4)

The conclusion is inescapable that the period of time of 150 days was equal to EXACTLY FIVE MONTHS! Expressed as a mathematical equation this would read as:

Month 2, Day 17 + 150 Days = Month 7, Day 17.

Therefore in the calendar that was in use at the time of Noah (and therefore also in the time going back to the creation of Adam) every month consisted of exactly 30 days, no more and no less!"

https://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=90

 

As for Daniel, that is a prophesy of the future. Yes the days are also 360 as marked by God in the Tribulation.

 

 

[Guest]

What is pure speculation not supported by science is that Noah's Flood was global. It is within the Hebrew language to consider Noah's Flood as local which is in agreement with science and many Christians.

Source: https://worldeventsandthebible.com/noahs-flood

https://ncse.ngo/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth

https://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/Carol 1.pdf

http://www.ecclesia.org/Truth/flood.html

And many other reliable sources. We do our Christian faith a disservice by trying to make it say something it doesn't.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Do I detect some hostility here? Anyhow, OK.

No.

22 minutes ago, dad2 said:

In Genesis 7:11 we are told:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (Genesis 7:11)

This verse pinpoints ONE VERY SPECIFIC DAY! It was Month 2, Day 17 of Noah's 600th year. Such dating obviously implies a calendar.

So are you using the prophetic calendar of Daniel, or the Earth/Sun (365+ days/year) we use today.

22 minutes ago, dad2 said:

A few verses later we are told:

And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days. (Genesis 7:24)

Here we have A VERY SPECIFIC AND LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME. It was exactly 150 days. This is repeated a few verses later.

And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated. (Genesis 8:3)

The very next verse then again pinpoints ONE VERY SPECIFIC DAY! It was Month 7, Day 17.

And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. (Genesis 8:4)

The conclusion is inescapable that the period of time of 150 days was equal to EXACTLY FIVE MONTHS! Expressed as a mathematical equation this would read as:

Month 2, Day 17 + 150 Days = Month 7, Day 17.

Therefore in the calendar that was in use at the time of Noah (and therefore also in the time going back to the creation of Adam) every month consisted of exactly 30 days, no more and no less!"

https://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=90

Who is Frank W. Nelte?

22 minutes ago, dad2 said:

As for Daniel, that is a prophesy of the future. Yes the days are also 360 as marked by God in the Tribulation.

It's actually older.

https://www.lostagesecrets.com/360-days-in-a-year.html

https://jewishroots.net/library/prophecy/daniel/daniel-9-24-27/360-day-prophetic-year.html

[dad2]

14 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

No.

So are you using the prophetic calendar of Daniel, or the Earth/Sun (365+ days/year) we use today.

No. That is future. Same 360 year will exist. The record of the flood days with Noah has months at 30 days. (360 day year)

14 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Who is Frank W. Nelte?

No idea. I could google probably hundreds of sites that point out what Genesis says.

14 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

It's actually older.

https://www.lostagesecrets.com/360-days-in-a-year.html

https://jewishroots.net/library/prophecy/daniel/daniel-9-24-27/360-day-prophetic-year.html

That is interesting. The evidence mounts.

[dad2]

7 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

But the fossils would be distributed differently.   So we know they are right.

No they would not. The animals or dinos that died during or before the division would still be there in the ground. Using different beliefs we can date it differently. Sorry if you thought that your dream date basis was mandatory. No. We can easily remove that with a crow bar.

7 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Sorry, no evidence whatever for that.

Problem there is that man living with dinosaurs is not a Biblical idea.

Sure it is. God made all kinds. So either dinos were a created kind, or quickly adapted/evolved from a created kind! In either case man was here. Don't confuse no remains of man with noone alive. All we can say is that in that former world and time man left no remains as far as we know.

7 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Nope.  As you learned, direct calibration of radioisotope data shows that it's precisely accurate.   Your imaginary "well it was different back then" story has no evidence whatever for it.

The 'calibration you offered was from some event in 79AD. As you should have learned that is not relevant in the least.

7 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

That's wrong, too...

Precise dating of the destruction of Pompeii proves argon-argon method can reliably date rocks as young as 2,000 years

https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/pompeii.html

 

No one asked about 2000 years or 10 years. The tower of Babel was closer to 4400 years ago. Try to post on point.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No. That is future. Same 360 year will exist. The record of the flood days with Noah has months at 30 days. (360 day year)

No idea. I could google probably hundreds of sites that point out what Genesis says.

That is interesting. The evidence mounts.

https://www.lostagesecrets.com/Ancient-Egyptian-Astronomy.html

https://360dayyear.com/

 

[The Barbarian]

But the fossils would be distributed differently.   So we know they are right.

24 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No they would not.

Yes, they would.   We would not see the same fossil arrays of non-seagoing organisms in two widely-separated continents that just happen to fit together like jigsaw pieces.   No way to deny all that.

26 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Using different beliefs we can date it differently.

Comes down to evidence.  Geologists have evidence.  You have non-scriptural stories.

27 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No one asked about 2000 years or 10 years. The tower of Babel was closer to 4400 years ago. Try to post on point.

If your story was right, we'd see sudden discontinuities in the rocks moving away from the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.  But we don't.  The new rock right at the ridge ages just as all the rock all the way over to North America does.    If your new doctrine was correct we'd see a clear demarcation where the rules changed.   And we don't.  Which means your imagination fails again.

 

BTW, we know from tidal rhythmites that days a very long time ago, were shorter.   Which means more than 365 days in a year, not less.