Marathoner Posted February 3, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,264 Content Per Day: 7.09 Reputation: 13,292 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Online Share Posted February 3, 2023 13 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Luke 13:3 ......unless you repent you shall all perish. Nobody is going anywhere unless they repent. Salvation needs Grace and mutual effort by mankind too : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James 2%3A24&version=NIV Christians without repentance efforts of compassions and forgiving others are the wrecked ships stranded on the sand. The common typical picture we might encounter in the neighbourhood. Not only they curse those who did no wrong to them howbeit they will forgive people. Salvation is beyond the efforts of man for if this were true, then man may boast. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10 NASB) Expressed within that passage above is the truth, which also informs us about the good works we are created for. I agree with those members who reported your OP for it is clear that in your opinion, salvation in Jesus Christ is insufficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted February 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Mama Etna said: The title of this thread denigrates the salvic work that Jesus did on the Cross. Works are the result of being saved. They do not save you. Placing works first is putting the cart before the horse. Its unrepent people without good deed who are stranded on the dry sand, not God. @Michael37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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