Catch Phrases of Apostasy

[ChristB4us]

On 9/4/2023 at 5:26 AM, Deborah_ said:

I don't know how it's happened, but a quote from the OP (which I strongly disagree with!) has got attributed to me!

There is indeed evidence of the apostles (no less!) being repeatedly filled with the Spirit during the course of the book of Acts.

The scripture in Acts are being misread and misapplied as proven by how it goes against the scriptures here in Matthew 9:17; John 6:35, & the warning against it in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 & the prophesy of these latter days in 1 Timothy 4:1-2 and thus going against this exhortation in Colossians 2:5-10.

Scripture cannot go against scripture and so believers should not be applying scripture in Acts while glossing over how it goes against His words in the N.T.

Example;  when Peter is filled with the Holy Ghost, it is to testify how he was speaking as by the Holy ghost rather than Peter speaking of his own volition.

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this? 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,

You cannot say Peter prayed for a filling of the Holy Spirit before answering that question because Jesus said this;

Matthew 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

That is what had happened to Peter in Acts 4 when Peter and John were arrested, they were interrupted in preaching to potential believers that after they were released, Peter & John had told those company of potential believers what had happened and the new believers prayed that they would have the same boldness to preach as Peter & John had done and they were saved.  We can know they were new believers by what they did after that, by how they sold everything and laid it at the apostles' feet to distribute it evenly among that NEW community of believers.  So what they had prayed for, Peter & john were not filled again with the Holy Spirit when the new believers got saved for when they were wanting to preach like them.

Usually, nobody in the service of the supernatural movement of the "spirit" will listen because they want to believe that phenomenon is of God, but the spirits of the antichrist does take their eyes off of the Son to chase after such visitation of phenomenon even if it is just a sensation of being filled as in receiving a spirit again.  Scriptures testify that they are at risk of being left behind per the parable of the ten virgins for being out to the market seeking to be filled but while the door to the Marriage Supper is open, they can repent with His help, pray normally, ( tongues for private use is not of Him at all per 1 Corinthians 12:7-14 & 19-21 ) and chase no more after the spirits by resting in Jesus Christ as always Spirit-filled since salvation for why the wise were ready to go when the Bridegroom comes.

[Deborah_]

On 10/16/2023 at 1:03 PM, ChristB4us said:

How can a believer seek a continual filling of the Holy spirit when it ignores this warning from Paul not to seek such a thing?

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Paul is telling us here not to seek a different spirit or a different gospel.

 

[Deborah_]

On 10/16/2023 at 1:21 PM, ChristB4us said:

That is what had happened to Peter in Acts 4 when Peter and John were arrested, they were interrupted in preaching to potential believers that after they were released, Peter & John had told those company of potential believers what had happened and the new believers prayed that they would have the same boldness to preach as Peter & John had done and they were saved.  We can know they were new believers by what they did after that, by how they sold everything and laid it at the apostles' feet to distribute it evenly among that NEW community of believers.  So what they had prayed for, Peter & john were not filled again with the Holy Spirit when the new believers got saved for when they were wanting to preach like them.

So you think that the group of believers in Acts 4:23-31 are exactly the same as the new believers in Acts 4:4? The passage doesn't't actually say that...

Also, in verse 31, it says specifically that all the people meeting in that place (which would include the apostles!) were filled with the Spirit.

I'm afraid I don't find your arguments convincing.