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The Battle of Gog of the Land of Magog


Charles R. Sabo

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6 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

As you can see, I did say that the verb is imperfect. What you fail to understand is how its meaning is changed by the vav-consecutive prefix.

"The Hebrew Imperfect verbal form occurs 15,966 times in the Hebrew Bible. The consecutive Imperfect (Imperfect with Waw Consecutive) occurs 15,034 times." BBH, p. 195

Until you get this figured out, you are going to be misinterpreting a boatload of verbal forms.

This same verb with v-c prefix begins the Book of Ezekiel, and is used hundreds of times in the OT. Often interpreted "And it came to pass..."

If I said that it was imperfect, and you say that it was imperfect, then why are you arguing? When the translators interpret this as "it came to pass," then they have made this a finished action (perfect), when Ezekiel wrote this as imperfect and implies that the word of the Lord "continued" (imperfect). 

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2 hours ago, Charles R. Sabo said:

If I said that it was imperfect, and you say that it was imperfect, then why are you arguing? When the translators interpret this as "it came to pass," then they have made this a finished action (perfect), when Ezekiel wrote this as imperfect and implies that the word of the Lord "continued" (imperfect). 

I made the same presumptive mistake when I first got into learning Hebrew. All I can say is that you need to study out the function of the vav-consecutive, because you clearly don't understand it.

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On 4/24/2023 at 9:37 PM, Charles R. Sabo said:

Gog and his ancestor, Magog, will be burned with fire and cast into the lake of fire, along with Satan. Ezekiel 38 indicates no such thing.

Ezekiel 38:19-22

"For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken,
surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of heaven, and the beasts of the field
and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence,
and the mountains shall be thrown down..
and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands,
and upon the many people that are with him,
an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone"

"a fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them"
Revelation 20:10

"I will send a fire on Magog" Ezekiel 39:6

The ultimate latter days are those days of Gog and Magog,
that is the very end; Revelation 20:7-15.

 

When all the passages are put together, with nothing ignored, the interpretation is clear and makes more sense.

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On 4/24/2023 at 2:40 PM, Keras said:

No it isn't, it refers to the dispersed House of Israel, the ones Jesus came to save, Matthew 15:24, they accepted the Salvation Jesus offered and are now the Christian peoples, from every tribe, race, nation and language. 

Your saying that based on what?

In Ezekiel God promises "O my people, I will open your graves and bring you up out of your graves"

In Acts 26:5-8 Paul refers to that as a promise of resurrection to the house of Israel, there is no other such promise
that Paul could be referring to. And clearly Paul is referring to a promise of resurrection; Acts 23:6. 26:8.

Jeremiah 30:9 "David whom I will raise up unto them"
Ezekiel 37:24 "And David will be king among them and they shall have one Shepherd"

Christ actually died and rose from the dead, and also rose Lazarus from the dead,
proving and demonstrating that the prophecy is about actual resurrection.
 

"Come from the four winds Oh breath of life and breath upon these slain that they may live"
Ezekiel 37:9-10

In the face of it saying it is resurrection many simply assert that it is not,
but those assertions do not come from scripture.

You can not show me scripture that would lead to a clear notion that Ezekiel 37 does not mean what it says.

My view is based on scripture only, not mans teachings.

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6 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Ezekiel 38:19-22

"For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken,
surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of heaven, and the beasts of the field
and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence,
and the mountains shall be thrown down..
and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands,
and upon the many people that are with him,
an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone"

"a fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them"
Revelation 20:10

"I will send a fire on Magog" Ezekiel 39:6

The ultimate latter days are those days of Gog and Magog,
that is the very end; Revelation 20:7-15.

 

When all the passages are put together, with nothing ignored, the interpretation is clear and makes more sense.

Thank you for the Bible verses that you desire to associate with this. 

If you will notice, GOD the Father will send fire down upon the entire mass of people attacking Jerusalem within Revelation 20:10. Your attempt to connect Ezekiel 38-39 with Revelation 20:10 is actually pretty absurd. Your taking the names Gog and Magog and assuming that these two passages are connected. The Ezekiel Magog reference is strictly a location (land of Magog). Magog has been dead for over 4,300 years.  The fire being sent down on Magog in Ezekiel 39:6 is a nuclear fire; it represents a nuclear war, where that land will be burned up entirely. The fire sent down ( Ezek. 38:22) on Gog and his bands of the military are to be fire and brimstone as was formerly sent down on Sodom and Gomorrah. That nuclear exchange of Ezekiel 39:6 will occur within the first week of the seven-year Seventieth Week of Daniel. Nuclear war is coming. 

Your uneducated use of the term "ultimate latter days" is a twist. Whenever we see the term "last days" or "latter days," it refers to the latter days before the end of the age. This dispensational "age" will end when Christ returns on day 2,520 of the seven-year timeline of the Seventieth Week of Daniel 9:27. The mention of "latter days" insinuates that this event will be before the end of this age. 

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12 minutes ago, Charles R. Sabo said:

Thank you for the Bible verses that you desire to associate with this. 

If you will notice, GOD the Father will send fire down upon the entire mass of people attacking Jerusalem within Revelation 20:10. Your attempt to connect Ezekiel 38-39 with Revelation 20:10 is actually pretty absurd. Your taking the names Gog and Magog and assuming that these two passages are connected. The Ezekiel Magog reference is strictly a location (land of Magog). Magog has been dead for over 4,300 years.  The fire being sent down on Magog in Ezekiel 39:6 is a nuclear fire; it represents a nuclear war, where that land will be burned up entirely. The fire sent down ( Ezek. 38:22) on Gog and his bands of the military are to be fire and brimstone as was formerly sent down on Sodom and Gomorrah. That nuclear exchange of Ezekiel 39:6 will occur within the first week of the seven-year Seventieth Week of Daniel. Nuclear war is coming. 

Your uneducated use of the term "ultimate latter days" is a twist. Whenever we see the term "last days" or "latter days," it refers to the latter days before the end of the age. This dispensational "age" will end when Christ returns on day 2,520 of the seven-year timeline of the Seventieth Week of Daniel 9:27. The mention of "latter days" insinuates that this event will be before the end of this age. 

And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

- Ezekiel 38:22-23 (KJV)

This is referring to God’s wrath at the 7th trump—the end of this age. God will annihilate them there. God explains in this passage how He will accomplish this: through earthquakes, hailstones, floods, and fire and brimstone (such as a meteor or volcanic eruption). It will all happen as God deems fit. The size of these hailstones will be "one talent" or roughly 150–180 pounds each.  No, I don’t believe atomic bombs or nuclear war will be used by God.

 

 

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Is there a purpose for this Thread based on when we believe this will take place and when do we think, or an informative version based upon the Op's viewpoint?

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8 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Your saying that based on what?

In Ezekiel God promises "O my people, I will open your graves and bring you up out of your graves"

In Acts 26:5-8 Paul refers to that as a promise of resurrection to the house of Israel, there is no other such promise
that Paul could be referring to. And clearly Paul is referring to a promise of resurrection; Acts 23:6. 26:8.

My point is that there is two peoples; the House of Judah, the Jewish people, and the House of Israel, the Christian peoples. 

Ezekiel 37:1-14 prophesies the Spiritual regeneration of the House of Israel, verse 14 says the Lord will send His Spirit upon them. As He does to us believers in Jesus. 

Ezekiel 37:15-28 describes our eventual rejoining with the House of Judah, in the end times. Jeremiah 50:4-5

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5 hours ago, Selah7 said:

 No, I don’t believe atomic bombs or nuclear war will be used by God.

 

 

                           Zechariah

                                       Chapter Five

 

As the world moves closer to the days of Judgement, one can read of current events, which will cause a person to wonder when the end of days’ wars will begin. By reading the Scriptures, we can understand that there is a countdown to the beginning of these wars, which has already begun.  Ever since Israel became a nation again on May 15, 1948, many wars have already been fought against them.

The first large-scale assaults began on January 9, 1948, when approximately 1,000 Arabs attacked Jewish communities in northern Palestine. By February, the British said that so many Arabs had infiltrated, they lacked the forces to run them back. 

In the first phase of the war, lasting from November 29, 1947 to April 1, 1948, the Palestinian Arabs took the offensive, with help from volunteers from neighboring countries. The Jews suffered severe casualties and passage along most of their major roadways was disrupted.

On May 4, 1948, the Arab Legion attacked Kfar Etzion. The defenders drove them back, but the Legion returned a week later. After two days, the ill-equipped and outnumbered settlers were overwhelmed. Many defenders were massacred after they had surrendered.  This was prior to the invasion by the regular Arab armies that followed Israel’s declaration of independence.[1]

In 1956, the Jews were attacked again, during what is now called The 1956 Suez War; this then built up to the famous Six Day War of 1967; Israel had regained Jerusalem for the first time, since it was lost in A.D. 70. In 1964, the Arab League created the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which had engaged in terrorist attacks against Israel, until the Six Day War of 1967. After the Six Day War of 1967, a War of Attrition (1967-1970) was fought, as the Jews awaited a negotiation or compromise from the 1967 Six day War. The Arab League refused to negotiate and continued to attack through terrorism against them. On October 6, 1973, The Arab League attacked Israel, after not getting co-operation with the United States; they wanted the UN to require Israel to give up the land that was taken from the Arab League after their loss in 1967 Six Day War, including Jerusalem. This is known as The 1973 Yom Kippur War. The Arab League and the PLO continued with terrorist attacks against Israel from around all borders, meanwhile new terrorist groups formed, such as Hezbollah of Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza. After many ceasefires and treaties had been violated by the Hamas in Gaza, the IMF (Israeli Defense Force) used aggression for the first time since 1967 to stop the day to day missile launches fired upon them from the Gaza strip by Hamas. Hamas, cowardly, was using Arab citizens in Gaza as their shields of protection, as they fired hundreds of missiles daily onto Israel. This is now known as The 2008 Gaza War (Operation Cast Lead).[2]

 

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. (Zech. 12:2-3)

 

In Zechariah 12:2, one can see that the nation Israel will be a passion shared by the people of the surrounding nations. Obviously, this is definitely a prophecy that is coming to pass and will continue this way, until the Lord returns. The prophecy of Psalm 83 is coming to pass and will someday climax with a terrible fire burning devastation. That prophecy can easily be described as a nuclear event, like others in the Scriptures.

Soon an event will spark this battle mentioned in Psalm 83:11-18 to begin. Many will agree that this event, which would spark this war, would be something that would bring a high passion or sense of revenge against Israel. I believe this to be a nuclear strike against Damascus, as mentioned in Isaiah 17:1. Isaiah 17:12-13 reveals a tumultuous attack against Israel, as described in Psalm 83. Whether the nuclear strike against Damascus comes from Israel, or from another nation, it will not matter. Israel will be blamed for this nuclear strike, thus the tumult will be escalated. “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.” (Is. 17:1)

There are various references in the Scriptures, which resemble the consuming results of a nuclear strike. It is frightening to most to think of the world and the devastation that could occur, if these nuclear warheads were to get into the hands of evil people, with a cause for the destruction of others. Clearly, the Arab nations have demonstrated this evil desire to destroy the people of Israel. Many will ignore the various Scriptures, which show these destructive results, and will even try to rationalize them into being just the results of devastating conventional warfare. Many will imply that there is no reason to believe that the Bible has shown any prophecy of nuclear war.

Zechariah 5, which has been misinterpreted by many theologians, reveals a prophecy of nuclear war to come in the last days. The translators of the Scriptures have misused the Hebrew text and substituted different meanings to various words used by the prophet Zechariah.

 

Zechariah 5:1 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. From being told by the cherub angel what the two olive branches were in verse 4:14, Zechariah lifted up His eyes and saw a vision of a flying roll, which was flying through the air. The certain English translations (NIV, NASB, ESV, etc.) have revised God’s word and substituted this word to be a “scroll.” The word “roll,” from the original Hebrew text, is translated from the word mĕgillah, which is translated as a “small roll, writing or book.” The word “scroll” is only used in one place in the Old Testament and that is Isaiah 34:4. Isaiah used the Hebrew word cepher, which has a very similar definition. Historically, a scroll was a complete book, rather than a roll being a small segment of a book. So there is a difference between a roll and a scroll, when a person reviews historically, what each one represented. A scroll is a document or book that has two rolls together. The word “roll” is a single cylinder of paper for a smaller document. One can even recall the use in everyday terms, when someone is to roll something up, they roll it into a single cylinder of paper or material. I take my toilet paper off of a roll, and not a scroll. A book in ancient times consisted of a single long strip of paper or parchment, which was usually kept rolled upon a stick, and was unrolled when a person wished to read it. The roll was usually written on one side only.  As the ancient manuscript was unrolled to read it, the opened end would roll up into its own roll causing it to be a scroll with a double roll.

The important distinction referenced in Zechariah 5:1 makes a tremendous difference, when one is attempting to interpret this chapter in Zechariah. Zechariah was not seeing an ancient scroll, when he saw this vision. He was looking at a single roll.

Zechariah 5:2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. The cherub angel asked Zechariah what he saw and he replied that he saw a flying roll. Most people can decipher the difference in the aerodynamics between a scroll and a roll. Certainly, one can throw a double roll (scroll) through the air; however, if someone were to attempt to cast a roll shaped object, it tends to be much more aerodynamic to fly (spear, missile, javelin).

 

Amazingly, Zechariah provides his readers the dimensions of this flying roll, (the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits).  A cubit is an ancient biblical unit of measurement. Most have agreed that a cubit is equal to about 18 inches. So, the length of this flying roll is 360 inches (30 feet), while the breadth (circumference) is 180 inches (15 feet). The reality should be setting in right now, that this is not an ancient scroll, or even ancient paper roll flying through the air.

Zechariah 5:3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that steals shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that swears shall be cut off as on that side according to it. The word “Then” links us to the previous statement. The same cherub angel revealed a declaration of a coming judgment, which will be set upon the people of the Earth. God is one who blesses, as well as curses. The curse is designated against a certain people, who have performed certain acts that God is going to place judgment against; “for every one that steals, and every one that swears” are the two sins. The word steals is translated from the Hebrew word ganab, which is defined as “to steal, steal away, carry away.” The word swears is translated from the word shaba`, which is defined as “to swear, take an oath.”  The words “shall be cut off” is translated from the Hebrew word naqah, which has a definition of either to be “made clean and pure,” or it has an adverse definition to mean “to be desolate, bare or extirpated.” With the flexibility of the definition of the Hebrew word nagah, one can refer to verse 4, in order to figure which definition pertains to these people.

Zechariah 5:4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that swears falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof. This verse needs to be used, while interpreting verse 3. In verse 3, one knows that God will judge those that steal and swear falsely. The details of the two sins are given more clarity here. There are those that are stealing are as a thief. I believe that this can also be applied to those that steal from the truth, commit adultery, and even those that backstab their neighbors (covet or envy). Those that are swearing falsely by God’s name can be understood to be those who say they believe in God, and swear by his name, but turn and sin like the devil. It can be all those that commit idolatry, putting worldly things above God, even though they say they believe in Him. Basically, these two offenses can be applied to the entire Ten Commandments of God, which these people have violated.

In verse 3, the word nagah can be applied with both definitions from the above paragraph and applied to the phrase “shall be cut off as on that side according to it.”  This judgment will separate the good from the wicked; it will purge the righteous as clean and pure, while purging the wicked to be desolate or bare.  Those that are wicked will have used up their time to repent and judgment will then fall upon them. 

Zechariah is told that “it shall remain in the midst of his house.” That seems to imply that people will be caught unawares, while they are at home living life as normal, when this judgment enters into their house. The rest of this verse indicates that this judgment will be something that will consume the natural things, such as timber and even stone: “and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.  This judgment would have to be something of a very intense heat level to consume stones.

Zechariah 5:5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goes forth. Zechariah is told to look up to see what it is that is going forth to bring this judgment upon the people. It seems that as the cherub angel is explaining, Zechariah looks at him; then the cherub angel has to tell him to look up once again at the flying roll.

Zechariah 5:6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goes forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. Zechariah looked up and saw something and asked: what is it? The cherub angel tells him that this thing is an ephah and then indicates that this is a resemblance over all the Earth. This, which he sees flying, can be found throughout the Earth. The word ephah is a Hebrew name 'eyphah, which is defined as a unit of measurement for the Jewish people. It is similar to what people in the United States know as a bushel. It is a unit of measurement, but also a container that is used for transport of that item being harvested, which is like a bushel also. Its approximate measurement is about nine imperial gallons. Please avoid assuming that this is a bushel basket flying through the air, that which we have seen all over the world. That is not what is being implied here.

Zechariah 5:7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sits in the midst of the ephah. This verse is one that so many theologians stumble upon and never really get this prophecy’s true meaning. There are two very important words that are misinterpreted in this verse. “A talent of lead” was something that was well understood back in the days of Zechariah, however, the lead is not exactly what he saw. Lead is a basic element. There are isotopes that will decay, down through time, into their basic element. Plutonium is an isotope, which is made from the isotope uranium. Both of these will break down to their basic element, through time, into their basic element lead.

                                                                                      Plutonium-239 Decay Chain

The decay process of Plutonium-239 produces Uranium-235 as the daughter nuclide. Lead-207 is the stable element produced at the end of this Alpha decay chain. The complete decay chain is expressed in the following reaction:

Plutonium-239 → Uranium-235 → Thorium-231 → Protactinium-231 → Actinium-227 → Thorium-227 → Radium-233 → Radon-219 → Polonium-215 → Lead-211 → Bismuth-211 → Thallium-207 → Lead-207.[3]

 

Since Zechariah would not have understood what plutonium was, nor even uranium, the cherub angel disclosed to him the basic element that he could understand. The word “talent” was a common unit of measurement of weight used back in that time. Since this unit of measurement is not used today, there is only a vague weight equivalent, which can be estimated. Generally, it is understood to be about 75-95 U.S. pounds. So, one can just summarize that this is a 75-95 pound plate of plutonium.

To summarize what is known about this judgement so far: there is a 3o foot roll, which is about 15 feet in circumference, with a container the size of a bushel basket, with a 75-95 pound plate of lead (plutonium) in it. This was lifted up into the air, as Zechariah looked up to see (there was lifted up a talent of lead).

The second phrase of Zechariah 5:7 is confusing to theologians and misinterpreted, because of the word being plugged in by the English translations. The word “woman” is a mistranslation by all of the English translations, including the King James Version.  The translators were confused by a word in the Hebrew, which actually has two different Lexicon references. All of the English translators used Strongs H802 for the Hebrew word used 'ishshah, which is translated as “a woman.” The word that should have been translated is Strongs H801 for the Hebrew word 'ishshah, which is defined: “burnt-offering, offering made by fire, fire offering.”[4] 

The Lexicon did not exist back in the times of the translators, so all they had were two totally different definitions for the same word in the Hebrew manuscript. Obviously, the translators could not make sense of what a fire offering had to do with a talent of lead within an ephah or basket, so they chose the woman.  Apparently, a fire in a basket with lead, flying through the air, was not as easily explained; a woman in a basket with a talent of lead, flying through the air, must have been more explainable. Now that modern day humanity has seen or heard of a nuclear missile, and know what they are capable of, the translation using a fire offering makes much more sense.

Zechariah 5:8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Knowing proper English grammar, one needs to refer to a previously stated noun, when referencing a pronoun. At the beginning of verse 8, “And he said, This is wickedness,” one needs to refer to the most previous noun to know what noun “this” is referencing. A person usually can plug the noun with the word “this” and it should make sense. “This fire offering is wickedness.” Notice that the cherub angel casted the fire offering (it) into the midst of the ephah, then casted the talent of plutonium on the mouth of the container (thereof). Zechariah used the pronoun “it” to refer to the last noun used, which was the fire offering from the previous verse. If it would have been a woman, he would have said that he cast “her” in the midst of the ephah. This would have been very awkward, casting a woman into the middle of the bushel basket and then, cast the talent of lead on top of her to cover the basket. The “fire offering” is allegorical for what the nuclear warhead will accomplish upon impact, but God included this as being already in the container, in order to represent that the fire was part of this container.

Zechariah 5:9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Zechariah continued describing what he saw in this same vision. When Zechariah looked up at this nuclear warhead, he saw two fire offerings (there came out two women) lifting the warhead off the ground, he recognized that they had great swiftness, as if they had wind in their wings. The same mistake was made on the proper translation for 'ishshah in this verse, whereas these are clearly two fire offerings as one can see in the above photo. There are two rockets flaming out of the tail of this nuclear warhead, in order to lift it to its destination. A proper translation would say “Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two fire offerings, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork.” The wickedness of the war mongering nations will be used against them by God, as He will use these nuclear warheads for their destruction.

Zechariah 5:10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? Zechariah asked an interesting question to the cherub angel. The word “Whither” is translated from the Hebrew word yalak, which is defined as: “to lead, bring, lead away, carry, cause to walk.” God revealed to me that Zechariah asked the cherub angel: “for what reason do these people build such a wicked device?”

 Zechariah 5:11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base. The cherub angel provided Zechariah a very deep answer to his question in verse 10. There has been a desire for Satan and his evil followers to bring in a single one world government, ever since the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11). God has confounded the languages and dispersed the people throughout the Earth, in order to prevent such an evil and diabolical plan, which would enslave the human race under one evil, ruling system. God has delayed their plan, in order to send His Son to be the Savior and Redeemer for the people of His kingdom. Since Christ had come and did succeed to die in the place of His people, the world has been moving closer and closer to that day, where they will destroy many and try to rule over the Earth. The house, which started to be built in the land of Shinar, was the Tower of Babel; the Mystery Religion had been born there and is still alive in the pagan churches, as well as the Roman Catholic Church (Rome).  And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.” (Gen. 11:2)

Typically, the word of God uses a feminine pronoun to indicate a church, or people. The Mystery Religion will be the evil realm responsible for the building of so many nuclear warheads all over the Earth. The Lord has indicated that He will set the nuclear warheads against her own base; this implies that He will use their own nuclear warheads against them (set there upon her own base). This prophecy ends with an explanation of why the nuclear warheads exist. The satanic realm will provoke the use of these weapons, as God has planned. The end will be God’s choice to judge the wicked, and these devices of the wicked will be used against them.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Keras said:

My point is that there is two peoples; the House of Judah, the Jewish people, and the House of Israel, the Christian peoples. 

Ezekiel 37:1-14 prophesies the Spiritual regeneration of the House of Israel, verse 14 says the Lord will send His Spirit upon them. As He does to us believers in Jesus. 

Ezekiel 37:15-28 describes our eventual rejoining with the House of Judah, in the end times. Jeremiah 50:4-5

Since you believe dead people being brought up out of their graves and receiving life is not a resurrection,what exactly do you consider to be the resurrection of the dead who are now in their graves?

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