Is Jesus Christ a Man or God.

[Yahweh is salvation]

Jesus is our Lord and son of God, son who he sacrificed for us . Abraham and Moses where good but Jesus was without sin,

which again does not prove hi is God.

So you think a mere man can be sinless? Being sinless does not simply mean that Jesus did not commit sin, it means that Jesus was born without a sin nature. Jesus unlike the rest of humanity was not only conceived in Miriam by the Holy Spirit, but did not possess the sin that infects the rest of humanity at birth. Sinlessness is not a characteristic of a mere man.

So when Jesus referes to him self as the first and last, that makes you beleive hi is God?

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (Isaiah 44:6)

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

(Isaiah 48:12)

Now, according to God, He is the first and the last and there is NO OTHER God beside Him. Now, look at what Jesus says about Himself:

Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

(Revelation 1:11)

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

(Revelation 1:17-18)

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

(Revelation 2:8)

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. (Revelation 22:13)

Jesus is saying about Himself what God said could not be said about anyone other than Him. Therefore, Jesus is God.

So if you say that Jesus is not God, you are calling Jesus a liar. If He is a liar, He cannot be a savior.

So the choice before you, is either accept Jesus' testimony that He is God, or you must reject Him as your savior.

If he did exercize his personal power, why then did he say this:" Father , I thank you for answering my prayer. I know that you always answer my prayers. But I said this, so that the people here would beleive that you sent me." (John 11.41,42)

If he is God, why would anyone have to send him, like he said many times (he who sent me).

For one thing, you confusing issues. What is it that you think Jesus is talking about? It would appear that you are assuming that Jesus was asking for God to resurrect Lazurus, which is not indicated in the text, in fact your translation is rather loose and also assumes that Jesus was referring to prayer. The orgininal text does not say that Jesus was referring to any prayer, but simply that He was heard. He was simply referring to the things He said earlier, especially about being the resurrection and the life.

As for being sent, that does not bear on the Deity issue, but only on issue of role within the Godhead.

Whether Jesus is God or not we will find out soon enough.

The Bible calls Him God over and over. I already stand on the authority of Scripture. I also find that Jesus refers to Himself as God, so I am standing on His own testimony. I am not waiting to find out. I already know. You simply need to believe the Bible.

No, you have to beleive and understand it.

God bless you my brother.

[Floatingaxe]

What then does the Father, Son and the Holy spirit mean.

Does it mean God, God and the Holy spirit.

It means, God, God and...God!

[HAZARD]

hi everyone lets disscuss on this topic

IS JESUS CHRIST A MAN---------- THE IMPECABILITY OF JESUS CHRIST ?DISSCUSS

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This seems to happen quite a lot. AppleofGod askes a question in October 2005, and is never heard from again regarding this question? (ie. no comment). Is AppleofGod still interested?

Jesus Christ existed in His Spirit body throughout all eternity past, untill He divested Himself of His Spirit body and became a man. As God He has always existed. But, as a man, in taking human form, flesh and blood, He had a beginning.

Scripture, show that Jesus Christ was one of the three divine persons of the Deity and that as God he had no beginning.

Mic. 5:2 states He existed from all eternity.

John states of Him as existing in the very beginning with the Father (John 1;1-5).

Jesus Himself said He was before Abraham, and before the World was created (John 8:58; 17:5, 24).

Paul states Christ as existing before all things and as the creator and upholder of all things (Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-3, 8; 2:10). God the Father created all things by Jesus (Eph. 3:9).

Divine names are ascribed to Him.

These divine names and titles proves that He is by nature divine and a member of the Godhead.

He is called God and Immanuel in (Matt. 1:23; John 1:1; 20:28 and Acts 20:28).

Christ the Lord (Luke 2:26); The Son of God (Matt. 4:3; 14:33; Luke 22:70; John 1:34; Rom. 1:4). He is called "MY SON" by the Father in (Matt. 3:17); The only begotten Son (John 1:18; 3:16-18; 1 John 4:9).

He is called the First and the Last. Alpha and Omega, The beginning and Ending (Rev. 22:12, 13, 16). The Lord (Acts9:17); The Son of the Highest (Luke 1:32; Mark 14:61).

The Holy Child Jesus (Acts 4:30); King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16); Lord and Savious (2 Peter 3:2); and The Word Of God (Rev. 19:13), and many more such titles show He is a member of the Divine Godhead.

In Phil. 2:5-11 Paul speaks of Christ being in God's form and that He laid aside this form and limited His attributes and powers as God to become a man. These powers were given back to Him when He was exalted to the highest place with God, (Coll. 3:1; Mark 16:19), after His lowest humiliation and limitation before God-even to do nothing, say nothing, be nothing and depend entirely upon God the Father for needed grace for body, soul, and spirit, and make a sucess of the work the Father sent Him into the world to do (Phil 2:9-11; Eph. 1:21-23; Col. 1:15-24; 1 Pet. 3:22). We know He did not keep His powers and position whilst a man, else He could not have been exalted back to it.

If He had not laid aside all His Glory and power He could not have had it restored to Him as stated in John 17:5. If He had retained all His riches while on Earth He could not have become poor for our sakes as taught in 2 Cor. 8:9. If He had kept His divine form He could not have taken on human form as taught by Phil. 2:5-11.

His incarnation proves He was limited as a man and grew to manhood as we all do, and He developed normally as any other human child. All the traditional theories of Him making toy birds and animals of mud and breathing life into them so they became real creatures and ran and flew away, and the many other miraculous powers He allegedly had from birth are mere theories and traditions made up by suspicious pagans to make Him equal with their pagan gods. He was a normal man as we are, and He did no miraculous works untill He was anointed fully by the Holy Spirit (Matt. 3:16-17; John 2:11).

After Jesus was annointed by the Holy Spirit to the full, He then posessed all the gifts and Graces of the Holy Spirit to the full, and He demonstrated what being like God among men really is like and He encouraged one and all who aspire to this exalted position, of sons of God with Power (John 3:34; Acts 10:38).

He laid aside His natural and divine attributes, and their use, and became a perfect example of yieldedness to God and His Spirit to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil (Heb. 10:5-9; Acts 10:38).

Regarding His Humanity. Human names were ascribed to Him. Rabboni (John 20:16), Jesus (Matt. 1:21), Son of Abraham and David (Matt. 1:1), Seed and Offspring of David(Rom. 1:3; Rev. 5:5; 22:16). The second man and the Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45-47). The King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2).

He was called a "BABE," a "CHILD," and a "MAN" (Luke 2:16; Isa. 9:6; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2L4-5; Rom. 5:12-21; John 8:40; Acts 2:22; 1 Cor. 15:21, 45-47).

It was prophecied that He would be born of a human mother (Gen. 3:15; Isa. 7:14; 9:6-7; 11:1; 53:1-12; Ps. 22).

And He had flesh and blood like all other men (John 1:14; Heb. 2:14-15; 1 John 4:1-6; Luke 24:39; John 19:34).

Jesus Christ, in His glorified flesh and bone body, now sits beside the Father in Heaven (Luke 24:39; John 20:27; Mark 16:19; Luke 22:69), for the Father, who is and did remain a Spirit being, is Spirit and has a Spirit body, and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth (John 4:24).

[sweetycakes]

He is God.

He is the Word of God.

In the beginning was the Word...and the Word was God.

Some other things to consider:

If you honour the Father, you honour the Son. And no man comes to the father except through the Son.

Jesus said 'Before Abraham was,I AM'

'Worthy is the Lamb that was slain, to receive glory, honour, power and praise'...........things attributed ONLY to God!