Adam & Eve - Christ & The Church

[Vine Abider]

8 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Romans 16:20  

English Standard Version
20. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

Greetings @Vine Abider

In v.20 it says "under your feet". 

We also know that this epistle is to the believers Paul was associated with and who were ministers of the Gospel and were fervent believers and had problems with the leaders of the city and perhaps the Jews in that city and they also had big problems with the religious leaders in that City, the City  of Rome...and Paul said that to them because he understood that Satan was behind all the troubles and the opposition they were experiencing...and that was that Paul understood that Satan was working through those people....who suffered lost of revenue because when the former Idolaters believed the religious group of the Idolaters suffered financial losses.  

Paul was telling them that this problem is common everywhere the Gospel is preached and people believe...because also after they believed they were trying to convince others to leave the Idols and follow Jesus Christ... 

Paul is telling them to be strong in the faith till the end no matter what...this way the Devil will fail to make you deny Jesus and by being strong and persevering in the faith with the help and empowered in your heart by the Holy Spirit from God you will overcome all the trials that are ahead of you...and you are not alone and with the help of God...you will be faithful to Jesus Christ...

All the attempts of the Devil will failed...this is it the Devil failed you have crushed him under your feet... 

 

Yes!  This is a key, God given purpose of the body of Christ - to allow God, through us, to crush Satan under our feet! "He shall bruise your head and he shall bruise your heel." (Gen 3:15)

[NConly]

2 hours ago, JimmyB said:

If someone has already decided to believe that the King James is the only worthwhile translation

I don't recall anyone claiming this

[NConly]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

Yes!  This is a key, God given purpose of the body of Christ - to allow God, through us, to crush Satan under our feet! "He shall bruise your head and he shall bruise your heel." (Gen 3:15)

that verse needs a little work I think

[JohnR7]

3 hours ago, JimmyB said:

If someone has already decided to believe that the King James is the only worthwhile translation, then some of the archaic spellings are likely to become a matter of attempts at proof of authenticity, I suppose.

In Jeremiah 1:12b "I will hasten my word to perform it." This of course means the original language, also I think that the KJV is authorized & God watches over to perform what He says He will do. 

[JimmyB]

54 minutes ago, NConly said:

I don't recall anyone claiming this

There are quite a few people who claim that the KJV is the only worthwhile translation.  In fact, they even have their own descriptor: KJVOs (King James Version Only).

[Vine Abider]

1 hour ago, NConly said:

that verse needs a little work I think

Go for it - what do you see?

[Vine Abider]

@NConly @JimmyB @JohnR7 May I suggest that y-all start a separate thread on this KJV subject (please)?

Thanks!

 

 

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, JohnR7 said:

In Jeremiah 1:12b "I will hasten my word to perform it." This of course means the original language, also I think that the KJV is authorized & God watches over to perform what He says He will do. 

Here is that verse in context: The word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Jeremiah, what do you see?” And I said, “I see a branch of an almond tree.” Then the Lord said to me, “You have seen well, for I am watching over my word to perform it.” The word of the Lord came to me a second time, saying, “What do you see?” And I said, “I see a boiling pot, tilted away from the north.” Jeremiah 1:11-13

What this meant (in context) is that God would give Jeremiah His words to speak (they would not be his own).  And of course it was Hebrew.  And applicable to Jeremiah's time and prophetic role.  You are really stretching things to apply this to any Bible translation.

Finally, the KJV was authorized by a secular king, not by God!

You're "mixing apples and oranges".

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 I read Vine Abider's post after writing this, so I won't discuss Bible translations in this thread any further.

Edited June 10, 2023 by JimmyB

[NConly]

1 hour ago, NConly said:

"He shall bruise your head and he shall bruise your heel." (Gen 3:15)

(And I will put enmity between thee and the woman) here God speaks to the serpent

it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. two actions, one from each being

to many "he" in your verse makes two actions both by same being

[NConly]

1 hour ago, JimmyB said:

There are quite a few people who claim that the KJV is the only worthwhile translation.  In fact, they even have their own descriptor: KJVOs (King James Version Only).

It just so happens every bible printed has some that claim they use the right one

some believe in pre trib some dont

some believe in 24 hour creation some dont

in this thread I have not seen any claims of kjv only