Knowledge or Science, falsely so called.

[FJK]

3 hours ago, Who me said:

Evolutionist and atheists say that science has proved there is no God.

It's not possible to prove there is no God any more that it is possible to prove there is one by using science or any form of structured thinking.

All the arguments for and against are based on an initial premise and accepting that premise is truth.  If the premise is accepted as true then any and all arguments developed by using it can be true within themselves.

Unless you want to risk madness, there are some things you should best avoid learning.  (This is a premise, and one that can be tested for truth)

[teddyv]

5 hours ago, Who me said:

Yet scientist say the opposite.

Evolutionist and atheists say that science has proved there is no God.

Do they? I don't. I'm a scientist. 

Evolutionist and atheists may say that, but that is a philosophical statement. Science remains agnostic, although it will seek naturalistic causes. This does mean certain things will likely be closed to scientific exploration.

5 hours ago, Who me said:

Richard Dawkins is one example of a scientist who claims this.

Again, he has made a philosophical/religious claim. 

5 hours ago, Who me said:

So as science cannot measure, observe or experiment on the cause of the b3gining of the universe.

What caused it?

As of right now, I do not believe there is any general consensus of the cause, although hypotheses exist. Testing them may well be impossible as we are limited to the physics of our universe. 

5 hours ago, Who me said:

Please remember Jesus supports a 6 day creation, he gives n9 support to evolution, so what cause every5hing 5o happen.

Jesus only refers to Genesis with respect to the concept of marriage. 

Also, you need to clarify what you mean by evolution, as it can be used in various ways. I am assuming you are referring to biological evolution. That, of course, has nothing to do with the creation of the universe.

[Believer112]

Who would ever believe in today's tribal science? If you live long enough you see the science evolve. Tobacco, low fat/ beef, climate change, Now big sugar! Around covid, I was exposed to youtube about health. The Fear made me question the truth of covid and opened a brand new world of prosperity in health. I am currently reversing type 2 diabetes and my wife's hypertension. The new science shows all diseases can be reversed. Where is the FDA? Because the spirit of the evil one/ cabal is keeping it hidden. It's easy, just follow the money. One way to fight the devil is to take care of your health and quit feeding the beast your estate, medical costs, and your inheritance. Kids are going to need a leg up in today's great reset. In closing, all the mentioned issues has are being proven false. The sad thing about sugar is that science has always been there but I chose the mainstream. All I had to do is Look it Up and critically think.

Fear and propaganda are all in the military psych ops manual which our media uses best. Fear taught me to keep watch for climate change and now 50 years later I call bs. The fear also scared the crap out of a teenager but was shadowed by the atomic bomb. As a kid, I knew that was instant death. The climate can wait we have more pressing matters with Russia. Now with technology, I can look for those old newspaper headlines. 

There are always two sides to a coin and it's up to you to decern which side is Heads.

 

[Who me]

21 hours ago, FJK said:

It's not possible to prove there is no God any more that it is possible to prove there is one by using science or any form of structured thinking

There several types of proof, it is not only mathematical proof  that exists.

Example, you prove it is safe to overtake a car or turn across a busy  junction based on what you can see and judge.

Courts want to prove what is reasonable to determine the guilt or innocence of an accused person.

 

 

[Who me]

18 hours ago, teddyv said:

Do they? I don't. I'm a scientist. 

Write your next research paper from a yec scientist perspective  and see how open minded and evidence  bases their judgement  is.

I will remind you that the Royal society had an education office who made the grave error of public5 saying that children who believed in creation should be reasoned with.

The uproar over this radical concept cost him his job.

[Who me]

19 hours ago, teddyv said:

Jesus only refers to Genesis with respect to the concept of marriage

No he referred to genesis in the context of marriage.

He made the point that man has always existed.

" at the begining the Creator  made them  male and female." Matt 19:4 niv.

If you look at other translation like the King James it says from the beginning of creation he made them.

Jesus  is backing a literal understanding of the creation account.

 

[Who me]

19 hours ago, teddyv said:

clarify what you mean by evolution,

An anti God faith based idea which cannot be falsified.

[FJK]

1 hour ago, Who me said:

There several types of proof, it is not only mathematical proof  that exists.

Example, you prove it is safe to overtake a car or turn across a busy  junction based on what you can see and judge.

Courts want to prove what is reasonable to determine the guilt or innocence of an accused person.

 

 

I think you are missing the point I was talking about, it all depends on accepting the initial premise as true and all premises are assumptions.

[teddyv]

4 hours ago, Who me said:

An anti God faith based idea which cannot be falsified.

OK. Well, I respectfully disagree with that definition, and I don't think we will be able to come to any reasonable consensus on a definition, therefore I will take note of your position and leave it at that.