douggg Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: The elect are changed in the twinkling of an eye when the great tribulation begins. Copy and paste the exact bible verse (s) stating the elect are changed in the twinkling of an eye when the great tribulation begins. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, douggg said: Jesus didn't have to. It would have been common knowledge to the Jews of his day. They were all aware of Antiochus's act. Copy and paste the exact verse which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. ------------------------------------------------ Jesus was referring to the time of the end abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:9-12. Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Daniel only wrote of one abomination that causes desolation being placed in Jerusalem. Not thousands. The abomination of desolation is singular ,not plural. As Jesus said 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) let us note that Jesus said the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet.This is a singular event which Jesus said will take place and Daniel only wrong of one abomination that causes desolation be placed in Jerusalem . 31 “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. But you continue to insist the Pharisees teaching that antiochus armed forces fulfilled Daniel 11:31 so we have nothing else to talk about .You have shown that you will continue to hold fast the Pharisees interpretation of the events in Daniel si see no more reason to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: But you continue to insist the Pharisees teaching that antiochus armed forces fulfilled Daniel 11:31 so we have nothing else to talk about .You have shown that you will continue to hold fast the Pharisees interpretation of the events in Daniel si see no more reason to continue. Copy and paste the exact verse which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, douggg said: Copy and paste the exact verse which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. The Pharisees taught the exact same thing about Daniel 11:31 as you do. We know this by the Pharisee named Josephus who became a pharisee at the age of 19 and was taught and continued to teach the same doctrine you teach. Who taught you this doctrine because the bible does not say it is Antiochus.However the Pharisees did. So what outside source (,outside of the bible) did you receive this doctrine? Edited July 1, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: The Pharisees taught the exact same thing about Daniel 11:31 as you do. We know this by the Pharisee named Josephus who became a pharisee at the age of 19 and was taught and continued to teach the same doctrine you teach. Who taught you this doctrine because the bible does not say it is Antiochus.However the Pharisees did. So what outside source (,outside of the bible) did you receive this doctrine? Copy and paste the exact verse of the bible which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, douggg said: Copy and paste the exact verse of the bible which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic. Prove that you are not just making stuff up. The Pharisees didn't write the bible so I cant quote the Pharisees writings from the bible. If they had wrote the bible then what you teach would be in there.But what you teach is not found in the bible. Edited July 1, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Quote the verse from the word of God that says Antiochus set up the abomination of desolation. I never claimed that the bible says Antiochus set up the abomination of desolation. It is a matter of historical record that Antiochus had a statue of Zeus placed in the temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: So you agree that you are not teaching the word of God but someone elses word. No, you are wrong. I teach what it says in Daniel 11:31. The fulfillment is not stated in the bible. Just as the names of the ten horn kings and the little horn is not stated in the bible. But when the fulfillment takes place, their names will be known. Edited July 1, 2023 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.50 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted July 1, 2023 It would be a good idea all around if you guys would remember the TOS and make it about the topic and not each other. Its stuff like this that gets OPs closed or deleted and that does nothing to further a decent conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,234 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,956 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2023 everyone should drop out of threads when they reach about 100 posts. All have had their say and there is no point of making derogatory statements to each other 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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