Babylon's destroyers come from the north

[douggg]

58 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I don't need a time line chart to count 0 days from the time the abomination of desolation is placed and the time the Lord stands on thet of olives.

It takes place on the exact same day.

So you compress the great tribulation time which the 42 months rule of the beast king, the time, times, half time of Satan's wrath on the inhabiters of the earth and sea, the 666 buy/sell law, all take place - everything into less than 24 hours.

That's why you should make a timeline chart - so everyone can see how your mind works.

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by douggg

[Shilohsfoal]

6 minutes ago, douggg said:

So you compress the great tribulation time which the 42 months rule of the beast king, the time, times, half time of Satan's wrath on the inhabiters of the earth and sea, the 666 buy/sell law, all take place - everything into less than 24 hours.

That's why you should make a timeline chart - so everyone can see how your mind works.

 

You don't know what your talking about.

You claim the saints go through the great tribulation when s rupture shows they are delivered at that time.

It's as though you wants all Christian to parish or something.

For the elect sale,God has shortened those days but you don't believe it.

[Shilohsfoal]

12 minutes ago, douggg said:

So you compress the great tribulation time which the 42 months rule of the beast king, the time, times, half time of Satan's wrath on the inhabiters of the earth and sea, the 666 buy/sell law, all take place - everything into less than 24 hours.

That's why you should make a timeline chart - so everyone can see how your mind works.

 

PS

If you were not misled by the doctrine of the Pharisees,you might have a chance to understand.But because you believe Daniel 11:31 has been fulfilled,you are not able to understand.

You should be more careful who you follow.

Daniel 11

³¹ “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

 

Believing the daily sacrifice and the abomination that causes desolation  is already fulfilled is where you went wrong. This verse is still future.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You don't know what your talking about.

You claim the saints go through the great tribulation when s rupture shows they are delivered at that time.

After the rapture takes place, there will be persons who become Christians during the great tribulation, including the mass number of Jews who presently do not believe in Jesus.    Those are the saints of the great tribulation time.

 

 

 

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

For the elect sale,God has shortened those days but you don't believe it.

 

I believe what the bible says - but not your misunderstanding of it.

You should also start copying and pasting the text into your posts, i.e. communicate better.

 

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

What verse 22 means is that the great tribulation will have a time span limit put on it, i.e. cut short of all flesh on earth being wiped out.

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If you were not misled by the doctrine of the Pharisees,you might have a chance to understand.But because you believe Daniel 11:31 has been fulfilled,you are not able to understand.

You should be more careful who you follow.

I follow Jesus.   He was not a Pharisee.

Daniel 11:31 is historic, referring to Antiochus IV committing the abomination of desolation type act, prefiguring what the end times abomination of desolation will be.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

5 hours ago, douggg said:

I believe what the bible says - but not your misunderstanding of it.

You should also start copying and pasting the text into your posts, i.e. communicate better.

 

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

What verse 22 means is that the great tribulation will have a time span limit put on it, i.e. cut short of all flesh on earth being wiped out.

The elect are changed in the twinkling of an eye when the great tribulation begins.

Soon as that cloud tiss from Jerusalem and that earthquake hit ,the seventh Trump sounds.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, douggg said:

I follow Jesus.   He was not a Pharisee.

Daniel 11:31 is historic, referring to Antiochus IV committing the abomination of desolation type act, prefiguring what the end times abomination of desolation will be.

 

Jesus never said Daniel 11:31 was historic.

He said it was future. The Pharisees taught it was historic.The fact that you teach what the Pharisees taught shows me you have learned their doctrine.

 

What Jesus says is ,is that the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel in 11:31 has in fact not taken place.

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

 

This is the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel in Daniel 11:31

 

 

³¹ “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

 

If you believed Jesus then you would know not to believe what the Pharisees had taught,Insted you believed the Pharisees and not Jesus.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, douggg said:

I follow Jesus.   He was not a Pharisee.

Daniel 11:31 is historic, referring to Antiochus IV committing the abomination of desolation type act, prefiguring what the end times abomination of desolation will be.

 

Jesus said to watch.You answered that it's already been fulfilled,nothing here to see.

 

 

Mark 13:35

Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:”

[douggg]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Jesus never said Daniel 11:31 was historic.

Jesus didn't have to.   It would have been common knowledge to the Jews of his day.   They were all aware of Antiochus's act.

 

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

He said it was future. The Pharisees taught it was historic.The fact that you teach what the Pharisees taught shows me you have learned their doctrine.

Copy and paste the exact verse which the Pharisees taught the Daniel 11:31 abomination was historic.     Prove that you are not just making stuff up.

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Jesus was referring to the time of the end abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:9-12.

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.