Daniel 11

[DeighAnn]

13 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Perhaps we should try something very simple.Whay day does scripture say the occupants of Judea will flee?

 

Mathew 24

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

What day does scripture say the occupants of Judea will flee?

 

To properly figure it out we have to see what MATT 24 and MARK 13 and LUKE 21 say...


Because we are GIVEN THE TIME

"But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months." Revelation 11:2 KJV

 

As we are here

Luke 21
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And when we put 'here a little' with 'there a little' GODS own words give us GODS TRUTH so we don't make up our own.  

MATT 24
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.



MARK 13

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

CAUSE IT WILL BE A DEVIL IN DISGUISE  -  TELLING LIES

 

 

 

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

 

That would be 1290 days after you said it would take place.This is not the only verse that shows the abomination of desolation being placed in Jerusalem on the day of the Lord.

You are TAKING the 'fleeing' from Judea because of the AOD coming to power

and placing it at a time when CHRIST has returned, which would be 42 months later.  



By the time Christs feet touch, SATAN/AOD has been bound and sealed in the pit...




 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

To properly figure it out we have to see what MATT 24 and MARK 13 and LUKE 21 say...


Because we are GIVEN THE TIME

"But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months." Revelation 11:2 KJV

 

As we are here

Luke 21
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And when we put 'here a little' with 'there a little' GODS own words give us GODS TRUTH so we don't make up our own.  

MATT 24
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.



MARK 13

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

CAUSE IT WILL BE A DEVIL IN DISGUISE  -  TELLING LIES

 

 

 

Well,you just quoted the verse saying when it takes place.

Mathew 24

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

Now I had attempted to get you to pay attention to this verse already so I don't know if this attempted to get you to pay attention to it will succeed or fail.But if you would please notice that Jesus is quoting scripture from Daniel 12:1 giving the timing of the abomination of desolation.

 

Daniel 12:1

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

 

 

Again,this time of great tribulation takes place 1290 days after you claimed it would take place.

[DeighAnn]

9:11 They have over them a king; the angel of the abyss.  Name of him in Hebrew ABADDON

3. Abaddón ►
Strong's Concordance
Abaddón: Abaddon, the angel of the abyss
Original Word: Ἀβαδδών, ὁ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Abaddón
Phonetic Spelling: (ab-ad-dohn')
Definition: Abaddon, the angel of the abyss
Usage: Abaddon, Destroyer (i.e. Destroying Angel) or place of destruction (personified).

and in the GREEK name he has APOLLYON

 623. Apolluón ►
Strong's Concordance
Apolluón: "a destroyer," Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
Original Word: Ἀπολλύων, ονος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Apolluón
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol-loo'-ohn)
Definition: "a destroyer", Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
Usage: Apollyon, The Destroying One, a Greek translation of the Hebrew: Abaddon.



Abomination of Desolation

 

946. bdelugma ►
Strong's Concordance
bdelugma: a detestable thing
Original Word: βδέλυγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: bdelugma
Phonetic Spelling: (bdel'-oog-mah)
Definition: a detestable thing
Usage: an abominable thing, an accursed thing.

2050. erémósis ►
Strong's Concordance
erémósis: a making desolate
Original Word: ἐρήμωσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: erémósis
Phonetic Spelling: (er-ay'-mo-sis)
Definition: a making desolate
Usage: a desolation, devastation.
HELPS Word-studies
2050 erḗmōsis (from 2049 /erēmóō, "lay waste, make destitute, barren") – desolation (desecration) that results from being cut off (isolated).

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.



EVERY PIECE HAS TO FIT WITH EVERY OTHER PIECE 'PERFECTLY'

or else you DON'T SEE THE PICTURE for what it REALLY is.  





 

[DeighAnn]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

Well,you just quoted the verse saying when it takes place.

Mathew 24

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

Now I had attempted to get you to pay attention to this verse already so I don't know if this attempted to get you to pay attention to it will succeed or fail.But if you would please notice that Jesus is quoting scripture from Daniel 12:1 giving the timing of the abomination of desolation.

 

Daniel 12:1

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

 

 

Again,this time of great tribulation takes place 1290 days after you claimed it would take place.

And YOU MISSED the time GIVEN AGAIN.  

 

[Shilohsfoal]

4 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

You are TAKING the 'fleeing' from Judea because of the AOD coming to power

and placing it at a time when CHRIST has returned, which would be 42 months later.  



By the time Christs feet touch, SATAN/AOD has been bound and sealed in the pit...




 

The occupants of Judea only flee once.They don't flee and run back and  flee again.

They flee on the day of the Lord when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

9:11 They have over them a king; the angel of the abyss.  Name of him in Hebrew ABADDON

3. Abaddón ►
Strong's Concordance
Abaddón: Abaddon, the angel of the abyss
Original Word: Ἀβαδδών, ὁ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Abaddón
Phonetic Spelling: (ab-ad-dohn')
Definition: Abaddon, the angel of the abyss
Usage: Abaddon, Destroyer (i.e. Destroying Angel) or place of destruction (personified).

and in the GREEK name he has APOLLYON

 623. Apolluón ►
Strong's Concordance
Apolluón: "a destroyer," Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
Original Word: Ἀπολλύων, ονος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Apolluón
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol-loo'-ohn)
Definition: "a destroyer", Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
Usage: Apollyon, The Destroying One, a Greek translation of the Hebrew: Abaddon.



Abomination of Desolation

 

946. bdelugma ►
Strong's Concordance
bdelugma: a detestable thing
Original Word: βδέλυγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: bdelugma
Phonetic Spelling: (bdel'-oog-mah)
Definition: a detestable thing
Usage: an abominable thing, an accursed thing.

2050. erémósis ►
Strong's Concordance
erémósis: a making desolate
Original Word: ἐρήμωσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: erémósis
Phonetic Spelling: (er-ay'-mo-sis)
Definition: a making desolate
Usage: a desolation, devastation.
HELPS Word-studies
2050 erḗmōsis (from 2049 /erēmóō, "lay waste, make destitute, barren") – desolation (desecration) that results from being cut off (isolated).

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.



EVERY PIECE HAS TO FIT WITH EVERY OTHER PIECE 'PERFECTLY'

or else you DON'T SEE THE PICTURE for what it REALLY is.  





 

Your peaces don't fit.

The occupants of Judea flee on the day of the Lord.Not 1290 days prior as you said.

 

⁴ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

⁵ And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

[DeighAnn]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

The occupants of Judea only flee once.They don't flee and run back and  flee again.

They flee on the day of the Lord when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces.

Because we are GIVEN THE TIME

"But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months." Revelation 11:2 KJV

 

As we are here

Luke 21
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

And YOU MISSED the time GIVEN AGAIN.  

 

No,I've got the time of great tribulation caused by the abomination right here in this verse.

Daniel 12:1

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

[DeighAnn]

1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Your peaces don't fit.

The occupants of Judea flee on the day of the Lord.Not 1290 days prior as you said.

 

⁴ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

⁵ And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

YOU DON'T think they should flee when the city STARTS getting trodden down???