SACREDWARRIOR Posted August 8, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2023 THE MARK OF THE BEAST...... 1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY? [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things. 1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark 2. THE WHY it is being implemented 3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS.... THE WHY... Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT..... The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out? IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority. UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence. It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above. THE WHEN... It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet..... [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in [2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!! THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!! Clarence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 8, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 hours ago, SACREDWARRIOR said: THE MARK OF THE BEAST...... 1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY? [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things. 1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark 2. THE WHY it is being implemented 3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS.... THE WHY... Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT..... The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out? IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority. UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence. It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above. THE WHEN... It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet..... [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in [2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!! THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!! Clarence I've known for about 20 years or so who it is.Im just waiting for him to pass legislation to implement his policy. He is today in the pleasant land. Daniel ,8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted August 8, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.92 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 hours ago, SACREDWARRIOR said: Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? A Chip can be removed, but if my understanding is correct the Mark cannot be removed. Once taken it will be permanent. I'm beginning to believe it will -or at least may- be something biological in nature, something that will become integral to our body and irremovable once taken. And it will be physical in nature, not symbolic, since Revelation 16:2 says those who have accepted it will be afflicted by painful sores (which are physical results from it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 8, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) The timing of when the mark of the beast will be given in the land of Israel corresponds with when the saints in israel.are imprisoned and killed.. The most detailed prophecy I've seen in the bible is found in Daniel chapter 11.A very long prophecy that stretches through several administrations but come to a point when the king of the north gives israel a host so that the daily sacrifice would be abolished.That marks the time the saints in Israel are persecuted,imprisoned and killed.It corresponds with the second beast in revelation 13 practicing the authority of the first beast on its behalf and causing everyone in israel to recieve the mark. From the time the host is given to the Israeli government to the time of the end,Blessed are those saints who die in the Lord from that time forward. Revelation 14:13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.” Here is the corresponding verses found in Daniel 11 Daniel 11 Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed. During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere. And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come. These same saints are seen later in revelation reigning with Christ for 1000 years. Revelation 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Jesus spoke of the persecution of these saints in several places in the gospels. Edited August 8, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted August 8, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,468 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,379 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2023 I have also thought that way for a long time for various reasons, particularly since technology and “knowledge” has exponentially advanced. Every day miniature implants are looking more and more attractive, with companies mandating their conditions of employment for security and access reasons (plugged in, so to speak). Thus far in America, they have not stood the legal challenge, but it is coming. Why the forehead or hand? Revelation 14:9 (KJV) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, [emphasis added] Most Bible translations state “on” instead of in, dermal vs. subdermal. That little two-letter world makes a big difference. What if we were talking basketballs or watermelons? The hand and forehead are two convenient parts of our bodies with the most significant temperature fluctuation, convertible to microcurrent to power something. If it is charging a micro battery, and that battery is leaking its contents, could that cause a particular condition, such as painful sores? Looking at the concise amount of time the mark is mandated, manufactured, accepted, and implemented, much like the Covid jab, is suspicious. It is almost like people are butting long lines to be the first ones to receive it. The narrative sounds as if there is a miraculous incentive to obtain the mark. The payment is allegiance, worship, and eternal death. Most would be surprised by the number of RFID microchips used today in the products we purchase and tracking shipments in tractor trailers, rail, airline, and ship. What if not only these chips let us bypass checkout lines and have our identification, financial information, and emergency medical information? Suppose they can monitor and intervene with the onset of cancer or a heart attack, an internal doctor monitoring your health. What if they offered a significant extension to our mortality at a great cost? Let’s take it even one step further: It is no secret that governments are experimenting with creating biologically modified super soldiers and creating a “space force.” What would that entail regarding gene and DNA tampering, altering the human genome? Biologically is there any coming back from that? What percentage of DNA change does it take before we are no longer 100% human? According to at least one geneticist on the record, <1%. In my estimation, a biologically modified soldier (or anyone) with eyes like an owl, tireless as a wolf, as strong as a bear, requires less food and support, requires little rest and sleep, would be considered a super-hero or demi-god. Do such drastic genome modifications from the original creation disqualify from any possibility for Salvation? Science fiction, artificial intelligence, and Dick Tracy’s audio video wristwatch are now our realities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 hours ago, FJK said: A Chip can be removed, but if my understanding is correct the Mark cannot be removed. Once taken it will be permanent. I'm beginning to believe it will -or at least may- be something biological in nature, something that will become integral to our body and irremovable once taken. And it will be physical in nature, not symbolic, since Revelation 16:2 says those who have accepted it will be afflicted by painful sores (which are physical results from it). Thieves can cut the hand or plucked the head to steal the Mark for payment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,629 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2023 19 hours ago, SACREDWARRIOR said: THE MARK OF THE BEAST...... 1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY? [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things. 1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark 2. THE WHY it is being implemented 3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS.... THE WHY... Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT..... The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out? IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority. UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence. It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above. THE WHEN... It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet..... [Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name. An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in [2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!! THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!! Clarence And what it is, is the name of the beast or the number of its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACREDWARRIOR Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, Diaste said: And what it is, is the name of the beast or the number of its name. UNKNOWN at this time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACREDWARRIOR Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: I've known for about 20 years or so who it is.Im just waiting for him to pass legislation to implement his policy. He is today in the pleasant land. IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW CURRENTLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACREDWARRIOR Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 17 hours ago, FJK said: A Chip can be removed, but if my understanding is correct the Mark cannot be removed. Once taken it will be permanent. I'm beginning to believe it will -or at least may- be something biological in nature, something that will become integral to our body and irremovable once taken. And it will be physical in nature, not symbolic, since Revelation 16:2 says those who have accepted it will be afflicted by painful sores (which are physical results from it). I'Ve already read of BIO tattoo's that can be either visible or invisible depending on personal preference...so you are correct... the point of my post ...was not to imply the coming chip IS THE MOB...rather at this time it IS NOT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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