Many doubts about Christianity

[JesusismyLord]

you have to take the verse for what it says and it doesnt say that...if you want to go that route then we can say that

Just as jesus was the first Ada,, then Mary is the first Eve..

In the Old Testament, when the ark of covenant was carried and built, It had to be perfect to be able to hold Gods word in it, so since Jesus was Gods word, then what carried Jesus, none other than Mary, so she must be perfect(sinless). We can go on and on about other faiths taking scripture and using for there doctrines, Mormons use Ezekiel 37, the parable of the 2 sticks to say that the one is the Bible, the other is the book of mormon. Once you open the door for accepting what you are saying is accepted

The calling of Israel the Nation out of Egypt was a type and Shadow of the Messiah.

The writer of Hebrews speaks of these things and actions in the Old Testament being shadows of the more perfect thing to come. Which indeed was the Christ.

then everything goes and we have many beliefs, do you agree that this kind of guessing, or misusing phrases are dangerous to any faith. Hosea 11:1 says one thing and you cant read it for more than it is.

[ayin jade]

When I accepted Jesus, a real and profound change occured in me. Whenever I have doubts intellectually, pursuaded by things of this world, things not of God....all I have to do is remember how I have seen the Lord at work. Doubts immediately fade. There is no doubt about what the Lord has done, the changes He and He alone wrought in me. Jesus is Lord. Until I acknowledged that, I was spiritually blind. I was spiritually dead.

[nebula]

I am typing faster and on a new keyboard, that sucks.

OK, I'll take that.

So, let me go back to something I put forth originally.

What does the celebration of Passover mean to you and your understanding? Why did the LORD institute this and the other Feasts? What was He really after?

[Matthitjah]

Amen Sister Jade,

De

[JesusismyLord]

I too was changed in 1996 by Jesus Christ, so I know what youre saying, youre not talking to some atheist or secular person, I am born again of the blood of Jesus Christ.

Passover was simply for the jews, it was a sign to the Egyptians that the one true God was coming and he was taking his poeple out of Suffering bondage. If you look into it as some kind of figurative event to happen in the future, then we can use all scripture for any future event right? A s long as it's somehwta close.

Jade your inability to look at the evidence and the possible truth makes you blinded to your faith, thats how I was for years, I would hear stuff that wouldnt make sense with what the bible teaches, but would ignore because jesus is god and it's just satan, but enough of the little doubts add up and you cant live ignoring evidence.

[ayin jade]

Very sad. You shove the Lord aside. This is a dangerous road you are taking.

I have the only truth there is: Jesus is Lord, and through His sacrifice, my sins are forgiven. The debt is paid in full. Praise the Lord for His grace and mercy.

[Aim_64bIT]

Matt 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.(see also Mark 9:13)

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not.

once again, was he or was he not?, but once again the claim is he was but not the Elijah that was taken to heaven. This speaks figuratively right?

I think I can answer this one.

Jesus is speaking prophetically. If [israel] had accepted Jesus as Messiah, THEN it would have been Elias (Elijah) instead of John the Baptist. The scripture must be fulfilled; as it is written, Elijah will come in the dreadful day of the LORD (Malachi 4:5). In the Revelation of John the Apostle, Lord Jesus Christ takes John into the future in the Spirit (Revelation 1:10). Two prophets (Elijah and Moses) preach the eternal Gospel in Palestine until they are cut-off. The whole world will see them (likely via Television) and rejoice. Their corpses lay in the street for three days, while the people rejoice, before the LORD resurrects them from death.

Revelation 11:6-11 KJV

(6) These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

(7) And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

(8) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

(9) And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

(10) And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

(11) And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

[nebula]

Passover was simply for the jews, it was a sign to the Egyptians that the one true God was coming and he was taking his poeple out of Suffering bondage. If you look into it as some kind of figurative event to happen in the future, then we can use all scripture for any future event right? A s long as it's somehwta close.

OK . . .

So, Jesus taking up "the Bread" and "the Wine" at the Passover meal and saying, "This is My body" and "This is My blood" mean nothing to you?

Care to explain to me again what makes you a Christian?

I mean, how can you be a Christian and not believe these things? I'm lost here.

[nebula]

All the miracles, healings, feeding the thousands, raising the dead, and the other things Jesus did. Why is there not one single recorded writing about Jesus from anyone of the era, all that is found is writings of Josephus that many scholars agree arefraudulentt words added to bolster Jesus as the Christ. Josephus has writings about Herod, Pilate, John the baptist, the jewish war. Not one mention of Jesus, if jesus was as the new testament desrcibes him, wouldn't he be the talk of the century. This is a big void in chchristainitya guy who raised himself from the dead, but no recorded evidence. The NT wouldn't count, because it has a bbias plus all religions have thee own twist on what happened, look at Islam and Mormonism. Since the time of Christ, have there been any miracles like the ones done by jesus and some of the christians in acts? If these things hhappended wouldn't they be recorded, people being healed, raised from the dead even in the book of Acts, which was written maybe 60 A.D.

I first have to ask, do you know of any other writings that came out of that era? And especially concerning the land of Israel? He may have been the talk of the town in Israel, but who would have recorded such things and why? Those that rejected the testimony of the disciples that Jesus rose from the dead considered Him dead and gone. Jesus' ministry was only three years or so long.

As for Josephus, if he didn't write about Jesus, I would have to ask what was his religious persuasion. If he was not a believer in Yeshua as Ha Maschiach (sp?) [Jesus the Messiah], I would say that he would not have written about Jesus any more than he would have written about any other "false Messiah" - of which it seems several had popped up in those days. If he believed Jesus to be the same as them, why would he have written about Jesus?

John the Baptist was believed to be a prophet by the people of Israel, so if Josephus agreed with that claim, then that may explain why he would have included John the Baptist but not Jesus.

Recall, Jesus made absolutely no political change in Isreal whatsoever, even though this is what the people were looking for in Messiah. John the Baptist did create a political shake-up. Jesus did not. Why record in history a man who made no political change? Sure, the followers later on had political impacts - if only by not believing in Caeser as a god and thus making them criminals and persecuted against.

So, Josephus may have had a bias not to write about Jesus for. And then, who else recorded anything about Israel during that time?

I could also ask back in the same vein - why is there no mention of Daniel in Babylonian records? It seems he had a significant influence in court, yet only the Bible mentions him.

Why is that?

See?

[Guest yod]

Passover was simply for the jews, it was a sign to the Egyptians that the one true God was coming and he was taking his poeple out of Suffering bondage. If you look into it as some kind of figurative event to happen in the future, then we can use all scripture for any future event right?

no, and I'm not sure why you would reach that conclusion.

The Feast Days are called a holy "convocation". The word used there means "rehearsal" and that is our first hint that they point to something future while also having practical application for the present.

OK...you say that you are a born-again believer yet you are listening to the serpent in the garden tree? Do you ever consider that satan has planted counterfeits just for people like yourself?

It's been 15 years ago but I studied that junk too. It was interesting but not as edifying as studying the Word. I got bored with reading the religions of man.